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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

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    Correct me when I go wrong please.

    We are about 2 years from an election.

    Some of the nicer promises today are labelled for 2024/5

    When we have an election...all parties will put up a new manifesto for that election based on the situation that exist at that point.

    All these promises of what they are going to do in a couple of years, when things are straighter...are meaningless
     
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    That'd be the other lot that wanted a harder lockdown and more generous furlough
     
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    The thing about Paris overtaking London was reported in all the news outlets. I thought you might have more faith in the Mail than the Guardian. Seems the stats you posted are out of date.
     
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    So you think Andrew Neil posting yesterday would have included an out of date chart?
     
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    Yep. A bit like your Stephen Kinnock nonsense.
     
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    I'd trust Neil over your stuff, no disrespect
     
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    Sorry to act all adult and get in between you two bickering like children…..but doesn’t one ranking refer to The Stock Market value (Paris ahead), and the other refer to the ranking of financial centres,
    that deal in more than just stocks (London ahead)

    Might be wrong though
     
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    Yeah just looked it up.
    here’s the trend, from exactly the same source as Goldie’s chart, the Global Financial Centres Index*
    F4A2435F-0854-4E25-92A6-546BDC03B0BE.jpeg

    * this kind of stuff only makes sense if the criteria are explicit. The criteria used by GFCI are below. They are pretty subjective, especially the questionnaire stuff, and the purpose of GFCI is to promote financial centres. The article showing Paris overtaking London is based on a hard assessment of the value of stocks traded in both markets.
    • Instrumental Factors: objective evidence of competitiveness was sought from a wide variety of comparable sources. Click here for details. For example, evidence about the telecommunications infrastructure competitiveness of a financial centre is drawn from the ICT Development Index (supplied by the United Nations), the Networked Readiness Index (supplied by the World Economic Forum), the Telecommunication Infrastructure Index (by the United Nations) and the Web Index (supplied by the World Wide Web Foundation). Evidence about a business-friendly regulatory environment is drawn from the Ease of Doing Business Index (supplied by the World Bank), the Government Effectiveness rating (supplied by the World Bank) and the Corruption Perceptions Index (supplied by Transparency International) amongst others. A total of 151 instrumental factors are used in GFCI 32 (of which 55 were updated since GFCI 31 and 6 were new to the GFCI). Not all financial centres are represented in all the external sources, and the statistical model takes account of these gaps.
    • Financial Centre Assessments: by means of an online questionnaire, running continuously since 2007. We used 66,121 financial centre assessments drawn from 12,983 responses in GFCI 32.
     
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    Seems my post above holds some truth then…….like comparing oranges to apples
     
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    Here I should add, it wasn't me that made the comparison...
     
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    Both as bad as each other….luckily I’m an angel :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    On another subject, and recognising that Ukraine is not whiter than white, the evidence that is coming out about Russian torture chambers in utterly appalling. Russia is a pariah state under Putin. It makes a mockery of the UN that it has a permanent seat on the Security Council.
     
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    A Hell's Angel :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    You’re more of an angle but a cute one.




    Oftt that was ****ing terrible
     
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    Absolutely agree and sadly shows that certain individuals will gladly act in the most appalling and degrading way to other human beings if given free reign to do such a thing.
    You only have to look at the behaviour at Abu Ghraib..or at Auschwitz…or at the killing fields in Cambodia….or on the streets of Kigali.

    There is evil in everyone
     
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    I do hope you’re joining our World Cup boycott, Wills……
     
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    I agree, those are the sorts of base level we are looking at here.
     
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    The thing is, we as human beings will never evolve to purge evil from our inner self and will go on and on repeating the same behaviours…even though we inherently know those behaviours are immoral.

    You only have to look at the appalling treatment of so called “collaborators” in Kherson, that is strikingly similar to the way that some people were treated in liberated Paris at the end of WW2.

    We will never learn
     
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