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Just to be clear, I would have voted against Russia and Qatar being awarded the World Cup (and South Korea too) entirely because of their discriminatory practices.
But I would vote against the UK too, and indeed most other countries because of discriminatory immigration policies.
 
I didn't know that...thanks for pointing it out. So how do the many countries with laws that discriminate remain members of FIFA?

I don’t know. But the Statutes are signed off by every member FA IIRC. Or by at least 75% of them in a vote.

Of course these are the FAs not governments and it’s FIFA anyway so we know it’s corrupt. But it’s not a good look.
 
Just to be clear, I would have voted against Russia and Qatar being awarded the World Cup (and South Korea too) entirely because of their discriminatory practices.
But I would vote against the UK too, and indeed most other countries because of discriminatory immigration policies.
My posts ain't aimed at you or anyone else on here tbh...think the attitudes on here are pretty sound <ok>
 
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My point is that the West's moral compass is what is actually wrong in this situation. Qatar is certainly not acting with high moral standards. But most western countries don't allow immigrant workers from poor countries at all so give them no opportunities to improve their living standards. Of course Qatar could have done a lot better but we are not exactly in a position where we can complain.
Your first analogy is interesting....surely sometimes a relative improvement is better than the status quo even if not perfect.
Qatar just booted out a load of them prematurely, leaving them in debt to the people traffickers back home.
How did that improve the living standards of those that survived?
Just to be clear, I would have voted against Russia and Qatar being awarded the World Cup (and South Korea too) entirely because of their discriminatory practices.
What's the issue with South Korea? I'm not particularly familiar with their politics.
 
Qatar just booted out a load of them prematurely, leaving them in debt to the people traffickers back home.
How did that improve the living standards of those that survived?

What's the issue with South Korea? I'm not particularly familiar with their politics.
South Korea has very poor treatment of gays.
 
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Just to be clear, I would have voted against Russia and Qatar being awarded the World Cup (and South Korea too) entirely because of their discriminatory practices.
But I would vote against the UK too, and indeed most other countries because of discriminatory immigration policies.

and that’s why I’m going to be enjoying it

I reckon the weather will be better than it was in fascist Russia last time out

so that’s a plus
 
From what I remember watching Dave Mackay he was more than his reputation as a hard man , hard to get off the ball and had an eye for a pass ,broke up play but most of all a leader

I never saw him play for Spurs (I did once for Derby as a real youngster), but recall on a video of Spurs Best XI, that he was described as being as skillful as anyone else at the club in training.