Tigers' history

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Urika Peece. said:
I call it a purge because there was an incident in the city centre one Saturday night that led to it. City had been at Burnley and several lads who travelled on the football special went onto a nightclub in the city centre afterwards. At closing time there was an affray outside and someone was seriously stabbed, another not so seriously. The police tried to make it out as gang warfare, when it was nothing of the sort. The reporting on the incident was also questionable with the term 'The City boys were running down the street chanting....'. Other quotes were of the trouble at that time in the city centre, and I believe it coincided with the handing over of control from the old Hull City Police Force to the Humberside Police. Either way whoever was in charge of policing in the city centre wanted a clean up. They also wanted an end to the skinhead era which was also blamed for clashes in the city centre on Saturday afternoons with greasers/rockers. Several lads were rounded up and arrested over the nightclub incident, most of them City supporters, and loads more were dragged in over the following weeks on dubious charges and any incident that had happened in the city centre was pinned on them. Even those with no connection at all to any trouble but who fitted the bill as skinheads, or just being a teenager, or frequented Monte Carlo cafe or the YC, or stood on the terraces at City games were fair game to the police. Even wearing Doc Marten boots was an arrestable offence. Not forgetting a youth could get a borstal sentence for even the most trivial of offences if football or skinheads could be linked to the charge.
This purge continued for a few months and many lads realised that attending a City game was no longer worth the bother. They even made us stand on the terraces in our stocking feet, take off our belts and braces, and anyone objecting was either thrown out of the ground ( down the south stand steps) or charged with some trumped up offence. Away fans could do as they liked. I do know of lads who left Hull altogether and sought work down South and in some cases, Holland because they could hardly set foot outside of the house without being thrown in the back of a police van and spending a night in the cells. Some may see it differently but I see it as someone who was there and right in the middle of it.
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The battle of Dock Street actually made the national news on radio the Monday after, and was described as skinheads vs greasers. I can't remember the year, so I'll take your word it was 72. I was 15 at the time and definitely not ITK. I've been informed since, that the gang waiting outside of Malcolms (cnr George St and Dock St) included an element of off-duty OB. Whatever, the years that followed were dangerous for city fans of a certain age even at home games, until the Psychos took up the baton in the late 70s..
 
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Greytiger said:
The battle of Dock Street actually made the national news on radio the Monday after, and was described as skinheads vs greasers. I can't remember the year, so I'll take your word it was 72. I was 15 at the time and definitely not ITK. I've been informed since, that the gang waiting outside of Malcolms (cnr George St and Dock St) included an element of off-duty OB. Whatever, the years that followed were dangerous for city fans of a certain age even at home games, until the Psychos took up the baton in the late 70s..
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It started in Malcolm’s club, a strange place where skins frequented up or downstairs and the rockers were in the other, it just kicked off at closing time, whoever thought it was a good idea to have that arrangement must have been very naive
 
steverico said:
It started in Malcolm’s club, a strange place where skins frequented up or downstairs and the rockers were in the other, it just kicked off at closing time, whoever thought it was a good idea to have that arrangement must have been very naive
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Ah right, sounds like an insane arrangement, very naive. Didn’t the grebos also use Brickhouse - which was in Baker St or thereabouts? Perhaps that had closed by 1972.
 
Greytiger said:
Ah right, sounds like an insane arrangement, very naive. Didn’t the grebos also use Brickhouse - which was in Baker St or thereabouts? Perhaps that had closed by 1972.
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I’m not 100% sure but the skins were in the club because Desmond Decker was appearing, so there were 100’s in there, but yes a crazy decision given the rivalry
 
Greytiger said:
The battle of Dock Street actually made the national news on radio the Monday after, and was described as skinheads vs greasers. I can't remember the year, so I'll take your word it was 72. I was 15 at the time and definitely not ITK. I've been informed since, that the gang waiting outside of Malcolms (cnr George St and Dock St) included an element of off-duty OB. Whatever, the years that followed were dangerous for city fans of a certain age even at home games, until the Psychos took up the baton in the late 70s..
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The description was wrong but just goes to show to what extent the authorities went too to turn it into a gang warfare battle. I don't recall ever seeing a greaser in Malcolm's and the skinhead trend had all but died out by the winter of 72. The heavy rock nights were held in The Georgian pub, next door to Malcolms and the bikers used to congregate there, usually midweek, from memory. I can well believe the story about 'off duty OB' being outside the disco at closing time on this particular night. I was there in the middle of it and the lads I was with had all been to Burnley that day to watch City. Most of the same lads, myself included, were victim of a police set up the Friday before. We used to drink in Star and Garter and this particular Friday night as we all left at closing time, 'someone' had placed a row of empty milk bottles across the doorway, meaning as we all tumbled out the glass bottles were kicked all over the street, by accident. Across the road from the pub were a row of derelict houses in those days and as the glass bottles shattered a posse of police suddenly appeared from the derelict houses and rounded us all up. Loads of us spent the night in the cells yet no-one was charged with an offence, instead they had every one of us now on record, names, address, mug shots etc.
 
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askewshair said:
Just a matter of interest, according to the map North stand is actually north west (and so on with others). Is that correct? Not suggesting they should rename them.
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Strictly speaking you are right, I guess it was done for simplicity if you say there is an NW stand then you might expect there to be a West stand which would be in the corner, so just easier to say North/South/East & West.
 
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