Weekend Debate

[Eric Le Merde]

Nor would I expect you too. Marsch gets criticised in probably every second post in one way or other and there’s no problem but criticise the man who chose him and backs him and that’s a problem. Strange on that but anyhow

I'm a simple soul Eire, while they are Leeds I support them, when they are not I don't. I remember going to games and Strachan would get "Scum sh!t reject player" "why the fcuk did we get landed with him" "pass you stupid Manc twat" and then he'd score and those same voices sang a different tune. We all get frustrated with the team, especially at the moment, but for me reading all these negative comments just irritates. I know it's a forum and that's what it's here for, but I go back to the Strachan criticism.

 

[Jammy 07]

I'm a simple sole Eire, while they are Leeds I support them, when they are not I don't. I remember going to games and Strachan would get "Scum sh!t reject player" "why the fcuk did we get landed with him" "pass you stupid Manc twat" and then he'd score and those same voices sang a different tune. We all get frustrated with the team, especially at the moment, but for me reading all these negative comments just irritates. I know it's a forum and that's what it's here for, but I go back to the Strachan criticism.

Nah mate that must have been Lee Sharpe.

Stupid Manc twat of the highest order.

 

[Eric Le Merde]

Nah mate that must have been Lee Sharpe.

Stupid Manc twat of the highest order.

Not the best, nor was Robbie Fowler

 

[Eireleeds1]

I'm a simple soul Eire, while they are Leeds I support them, when they are not I don't. I remember going to games and Strachan would get "Scum sh!t reject player" "why the fcuk did we get landed with him" "pass you stupid Manc twat" and then he'd score and those same voices sang a different tune. We all get frustrated with the team, especially at the moment, but for me reading all these negative comments just irritates. I know it's a forum and that's what it's here for, but I go back to the Strachan criticism.

Understand but I have my points of view. Not trying to change anyone else's and enjoy the interaction. Everyone has varying opinions on where teams going wrong and how to fix it, I have mine. I believe Ortas a major issue, others will feel its someone else. Simple as.

 

[Eireleeds1]

Nah mate that must have been Lee Sharpe.

Stupid Manc twat of the highest order.

He was good at getting his photograph in the media and glossy mags of the day though, maybe not for his footie

 

[2 pennth]

… and the fans, we need a new set. Ken Bates was right, we’re all morons.

“LEEDS MORONS” adds a bit of class don’t you think?

 

[Doc]

Eire I disagree with almost all your rants about Radz and the board, simply because without them we would still be in the Championship or worse. Now in our 3rd season of Prem football. Yes we dont have the cash to compete, we dont have the investment we need. However I’m Beginning to see your point on Orta as I don’t understand how anyone can study a bloke for 2 years and not see that the Bielsa regime bares no resemblance to what was needed for Marsch. Where do Bielsa players fit into a Marschball routine….. they don’t. If Marsch has moved away from what he was doing to this new garbage then he wants sacking and suing for breach of contract. If however Orta has got it wrong then maybe it’s him that needs the bullet for giving Marsch the job and a long contract

 

[Doc]

On the whole Marsch debate the problem seems to be that he is only averaging just over 1 point per game, and thats based upon all 23 league games hes been in charge of so far. So without upping that average we will always be flirting with relegation. Hes won 6 games from the 23 but 4 were last season from his 12 matches in charge. Only 2 from 11 this season is utter garbage

 

[Jammy 07]

Reports that Tyler Roberts suffered an injury last night playing for QPR.

Did anyone watch the match and see what happened etc ?

 

[milkyboy]

“LEEDS MORONS” adds a bit of class don’t you think?

I think so… it does what it says on the tin and adds an ironic touch of self deprecation.

Here’s hoping the morons pull off a shock win at the dippers this evening.

 

[Jammy 07]

Eire I disagree with almost all your rants about Radz and the board, simply because without them we would still be in the Championship or worse. Now in our 3rd season of Prem football. Yes we dont have the cash to compete, we dont have the investment we need. However I’m Beginning to see your point on Orta as I don’t understand how anyone can study a bloke for 2 years and not see that the Bielsa regime bares no resemblance to what was needed for Marsch. Where do Bielsa players fit into a Marschball routine….. they don’t. If Marsch has moved away from what he was doing to this new garbage then he wants sacking and suing for breach of contract. If however Orta has got it wrong then maybe it’s him that needs the bullet for giving Marsch the job and a long contract

Can't disagree that it brings Orta's judgement into question but throughout the history of football there's always been terrible signings and disastrous managerial appointments.

It's how you overcome the problems caused by such decisions that counts at the end of the day. Orta now has the chance to redeem himself, by either backing Jesse to the hilt, or replacing him with a coach who'll get us out of this mess. Tough situation of his own making where he simply cannot afford to make the wrong call.

 

[Eireleeds1]

Eire I disagree with almost all your rants about Radz and the board, simply because without them we would still be in the Championship or worse. Now in our 3rd season of Prem football. Yes we dont have the cash to compete, we dont have the investment we need. However I’m Beginning to see your point on Orta as I don’t understand how anyone can study a bloke for 2 years and not see that the Bielsa regime bares no resemblance to what was needed for Marsch. Where do Bielsa players fit into a Marschball routine….. they don’t. If Marsch has moved away from what he was doing to this new garbage then he wants sacking and suing for breach of contract. If however Orta has got it wrong then maybe it’s him that needs the bullet for giving Marsch the job and a long contract

I actually don’t mind the radz really. He’s done a lot and clearly doesn’t have the finances to compete in the upper echelons. That’s not his fault. Only he can decide how long he wants to hang on and risk the club’s valuation and stays. What I have a problem with is the amount of control he has given orta. Hiring and firing and contracts. Radz policy could still work but it’ll have to be someone other than orta running the show in my opinion. Now I have to duck more pellets from Eric

 

[milkyboy]

We need milky the voice of reason here on the Radz debate.

He knew nothing about running a football club, placed a lot of trust in orta. Made a few mistakes some bad ones early… but he helped steady the ship. Provided enough funds to get us back on a footing that gave us a shot at promotion. Dream chairman? No. Significantly better than what went before? yes. I’m grateful for anyone who helped get us back to the Prem. Even if the bielsa call was a gamble it was a brave call and it paid off. Personally I think it was also brave but probably correct to sack bielsa. On paper marsch didn’t seem a stupid choice.

Does that make radz the right man to lead us on? Well the safest way to premier league status is cash and he doesn’t have a bundle of it. Orta is a controversial guy for whom I see both sides of the argument… but he’s all radz knows and I understand him sticking by him to this point. In short I get why those who want cash laden owners want rid but as fans it’s pretty normal to want to attribute blame when things don’t go to plan. If he moves on, I’ll look back and think we’re in a much better place as a club than when he came…. Bizarrely - even if we’re actually back in the same place (champ).

 

[Jammy 07]

We need milky the voice of reason here on the Radz debate.

He knew nothing about running a football club, placed a lot of trust in orta. Made a few mistakes some bad ones early… but he helped steady the ship. Provided enough funds to get us back on a footing that gave us a shot at promotion. Dream chairman? No. Significantly better than what went before? yes. I’m grateful for anyone who helped get us back to the Prem. Even if the bielsa call was a gamble it was a brave call and it paid off. Personally I think it was also brave but probably correct to sack bielsa. On paper marsch didn’t seem a stupid choice.

Does that make radz the right man to lead us on? Well the safest way to premier league status is cash and he doesn’t have a bundle of it. Orta is a controversial guy for whom I see both sides of the argument… but he’s all radz knows and I understand him sticking by him to this point. In short I get why those who want cash laden owners want rid but as fans it’s pretty normal to want to attribute blame when things don’t go to plan. If he moves on, I’ll look back and think we’re in a much better place as a club than when he came…. Bizarrely - even if we’re actually back in the same place (champ).

We'd only be in a better place if we continue to have responsible owners.

If Radz were to offload to a Bates or GFH type of owner then expect another generation of milking milky.

 

[Doc]

On the Tyler Roberts injury all I know is that he missed the last 2 games with an injury, so if he was back last night and injured again then nothing new really as he is another biscuit player who has spent more time on the physios couch than on the grass

 

[Jammy 07]

On the Tyler Roberts injury all I know is that he missed the last 2 games with an injury, so if he was back last night and injured again then nothing new really as he is another biscuit player who has spent more time on the physios couch than on the grass

Apparently he hit the bar and was then subbed off before HT injured.

Didn't see the game as was down the pub getting hammered.

 

[Doc]

Eric
Are you hearing anything out of the ordinary on Peter Lowey ? Radz seen out and about with Lowey this week and wonder if Lowey is thinking about doing a deal for a bigger chunk of shares in the club. Lowey at the moment has his shares as part of the 49ers tranche along with that techy millionaire. We also know that Radz has made a killing selling 11Sports to DAZN Sports Network. They could also be looking at buying an Italian club?

 

[Aski]

Been fishing Aski?

Not at all Marcus, fishing is the most boring activity I know of.

Had no clue who he was, thought he was just some random dude off the internet.

When Doc said he worked at the M.E.N, I looked at the site and it lists all their employees. After seeing who were the various football editors and football writers , I got to the social media producer. Whilst maybe not a role I would consider a journalist, in this day and age, maybe it is

 

[Aski]

A Leeds fan with opinions who happens to be a reporter.

Last week he reported the club are embarrassed about the signing of Rodrigo, the money we wasted on him, he’s never rated him and he’s fed up of Leeds trying to shoe horn him into the team to justify the fee we paid.

If we were worried about that I guess we wouldn’t have loaned out James which is far more embarrassing

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2022/10/21/insider-says-leeds-are-embarrased-by-one-orta-signing/

Cheers Ristac

 

[Aski]

On the whole Marsch debate the problem seems to be that he is only averaging just over 1 point per game, and thats based upon all 23 league games hes been in charge of so far. So without upping that average we will always be flirting with relegation. Hes won 6 games from the 23 but 4 were last season from his 12 matches in charge. Only 2 from 11 this season is utter garbage

More importantly than that Doc, half of those wins were against teams that had less than 11 players on the pitch