Adebuy-or?

[Hoddle is a god]

Now that the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool are no longer big clubs, and also now that Chelsea are proving themselves to be fallible and liable to fall outside the top 4 at some point, Adebayor will accept that Spurs are as big as any club out there, and more than capable of winning glory with his assistance. He'll also know that it's only a matter of time before we finally get the stadium that we so thoroughly deserve, and that then we'll be able to pay big club wages. We have more than an ample fan-base to be able to do that.

It's not surprising that Ade is making all the right noises about wanting to be a part of the great North London power-shift.

 

[NSIS]

'Enough wild assumptions....'

I stopped reading after that....




You'd like to think so. I wouldn't call Adebayor stupid, but his ego does colour his judgement.
I'm not sure that loyalty is a term that he engages with, unless it's to himself of course.
I think Spurs should buy him if the option comes up, especially at £10m - that's a bargain. (wages aside)
But don't be surprised to see Adebayor angling for a move to a 'bigger' club, if one shows an interest.

If that happens, at least we should make a good profit if we have to sell him. There are plenty of self-centred footballers around, he's a rank amateur compared to the likes of Tevez. Like I said, if he's got his head screwed on straight, he'll know it's time to cut the tantrums out, and try and rebuild his reputation.

 

[lennypops]

"He'll also know that it's only a matter of time before we finally get the stadium that we so thoroughly deserve, and that then we'll be able to pay big club wages."

Err...when do you expect the stadium to be completed?

 

[notsosmartspur]

'Enough wild assumptions....'

I stopped reading after that....

Unlike me ...no you didn't!

 

[Spurm]

"He'll also know that it's only a matter of time before we finally get the stadium that we so thoroughly deserve, and that then we'll be able to pay big club wages."

Err...when do you expect the stadium to be completed?

Its a good point, but i think i speak for all Spurs fans when i say i expect the stadium to be magic'd out the air in time for the 2011-12 season. Top stuff!

 

[redwhiteandermblue]

Spurs have risen a lot in the last couple of years. There's a good feeling with the club, and they're playing beautifully. It wouldn't be too surprising to see a player like Ade decide it's both smarter and more fun to buy into it, rather than gamble on getting a better deal somewhere else. It also wouldn't be unusual to see a player in his late twenties mature, especially if he seems bright, as Ade does. To me, the fact that he's playing unselfishly means Spurs would be stupid not to make a serious attempt to keep him, though expecting he in turn will take a significant pay cut.

 

[notsosmartspur]

If we got a couple of seasons from him that would be great, there's still plenty of time for a last payday for him. Players now know if they're that way inclined, finish off in the MLS or the Middle East, hopefully he'll see it that way. He's clicked instantly with VdV Bale and Modric and it can only get better. We don't play with fear anymore, so much confidence, I haven't seen this good a football from a Spurs team for....some time! Maybe I'm just hoping!

 

[Hoddle is a god]

"He'll also know that it's only a matter of time before we finally get the stadium that we so thoroughly deserve, and that then we'll be able to pay big club wages."

Err...when do you expect the stadium to be completed?

I did consider that, Lenny. But had I used commonsense, my comment would have been less likely to wind-up PISKIE

 

[notsosmartspur]

You've beat Dunderland at home, Stoke after a EL trip, they've lost every subsequent PL game by the way, and still went 1 behind to beat bottomdwellers Bolton.

Loads to get excited about at the Emirates then!

 

[notsosmartspur]

Chelsea??...Genk, QPR, and Terry's shot, probably a small split the dressing room too. Its a good time to play Chelsea and you still conceded 3, most times that would see you buried.

Me...blinkered.

 

[enigma]

Now that the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool are no longer big clubs, and also now that Chelsea are proving themselves to be fallible and liable to fall outside the top 4 at some point, Adebayor will accept that Spurs are as big as any club out there, and more than capable of winning glory with his assistance. He'll also know that it's only a matter of time before we finally get the stadium that we so thoroughly deserve, and that then we'll be able to pay big club wages. We have more than an ample fan-base to be able to do that.

It's not surprising that Ade is making all the right noises about wanting to be a part of the great North London power-shift.

So your suggesting that a club that has not won a league title in half a century is as big as any out there (i.e man u, real, barca) and you think we are the deluded ones lol

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

And as for the QPR game, if you'd seen how incompetent the referee was, you'd have thought it was akin to Osrevbo (sp?). Awful, awful refereeing performance

What major decisions did the ref get wrong?

If you're going to go down that route, then you should really mention that your keeper should've been dismissed in the victory that you're talking about, too.
He admitted it himself.

8 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss? Yeah, we're really in a major crisis, at the moment. And looking at our fixture list, on paper, we can win the remaining games we have left up until we face Man City.

And in the league?
5 wins, 1 draw, 4 losses.
Not quite as convincing.
Your away form is very poor, too.

Are Arsenal capable of going on a winning run and beating teams that they're better than?
Of course.
As you've already lost to the side that's bottom of the division, I wouldn't take it as a given, though.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

So your suggesting that a club that has not won a league title in half a century is as big as any out there (i.e man u, real, barca) and you think we are the deluded ones lol

Who's the bigger draw for a player at the moment: Arsenal or City?

Money's virtually everything to players now.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

The Bosingwa sending off was slightly harsh.

He was holding onto Shaun Wright-Philips' shorts.
It was a good decision, but one that not many refs would be brave enough to make.

They also had two strong penalty appeals which the referee didn't even bat an eyelid to.

I thought that both were quite soft, in all honesty.
Luiz' reaction was clearly ridiculous, too.
He certainly didn't help himself.

Chelsea's players were frequently fouled and the referee just allowed play to continue.

They also committed a number of fouls that could and probably should have seen their numbers reduced even further.

And as for the Arsenal game, well, I don't really understand why you're bringing that up?

You're suggesting that a referee may have influenced a team's recent poor run.
The same is true of your good run, if you accept that to be true.

van der Vaart's goal really should have been canceled out for controlling it with his arm.

Disagree.
There just isn't any footage of it clearly hitting his arm, so I'm not sure why Arsenal fans keep saying that it did.
Lee Dixon whining about it on MOTD2, possibly?

Besides, there is 28 games left, so anything can happen between now and then.

I've said this repeatedly to people writing you off, but they don't listen.
Half of them seem to be Arsenal fans.

I'm not taking it as a given.

Fair enough.
I still maintain that European football might become a big factor.
Liverpool don't have any, we seem to be resting everyone in our first XI and then some and I don't think that you can risk resting van Persie all of the time.
Time will tell.

 

[NSIS]

The Bosingwa sending off was slightly harsh. I'm not sure if there was even any contact made on Shawn Wright-Phillips. They also had two strong penalty appeals which the referee didn't even bat an eyelid to. And Chelsea's players were frequently fouled and the referee just allowed play to continue. There isn't an agenda against Chelsea like their fans seem to think, but the referee in that game had quite the shocker. Not as bad as Osrevbo, but definitely in that ballpark. It's understandable that they felt slightly disheartened afterwards.

And as for the Arsenal game, well, I don't really understand why you're bringing that up? But yes, Szczsney was very careless and was very fortunate to not get sent off. Even the keeper himself accepts that. What did you expect me to do? Jump to his defence?



Loss to Blackburn was just shocking and I can't even explain how we managed to **** that up. The loss to Liverpool I will not get into because it's an argument I've had many times before. The loss to Man United there can be no complaints and the loss to you lot....you did shade it overall and just about deserved to win, but van der Vaart's goal really should have been canceled out for controlling it with his arm. Although I'm not sure why Sagna didn't track back and why Mertesacker, for a man of that height, could not have jumped to clear the ball away or even covered for Sagna when he went forward. Abysmal defending on our part, but van der Vaart was lucky.

As for our form, well, the last 10 games show that the confidence appears to be high and the morale has boosted and 2 of the losses were prior to when we got our acquisitions and when we looked even more vulnerable defensively.

Besides, there is 28 games left, so anything can happen between now and then. But people that are ruling out Arsenal already need to keep their traps shut because, really, history shows that even when we've looked like having a poor domestic season, we still get into the top four. 05-06 and 08-09 were seasons when we looked feeble and that we were going to drop out for definite. But we showed great character and determination to fight until the end and we obviously needed Lady Luck to smile at us toward the end .



I'm not taking it as a given. Norwich away, Everton at home and Wigan away are not fixtures which I am looking forward to. Our record against Wigan at DW stadium hasn't been good, Everton always seem to give us a tough time and Norwich have shown that they're no pushovers, so I'm not taking anything for granted.

You've certainly improved as the season has progressed - as have we. However, for me, your defence is still way too shaky to be able to mount any kind of serious title challenge.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

I've watched it again and I'm on the fence. Bosingwa didn't really do anything forceful enough to bring him to the ground. Maybe a slight tug on Wright-Phillips, but it did appear to be a theatrical tumble.

Wright-Philips tries desperately to get away.
He doesn't even appeal for a foul, but tries to get up and take on Cech.

Luiz's reaction was a little juvenile and stroppy, but I thought that he had a good case. Both may be deemed to be soft, but they've been given before, for less.

Neither was a stonewall penalty though, was it?
If they were given against you, you'd be very annoyed and rightly so.

I don't think the referee was against Chelsea, but he made decisions to appease the home crowd for sure.

No more than in the average game, for me.

The only bit of luck we had was against Chelsea were Szczsney could have got sent off and was lucky that he didn't get red carded.

Quite a game changer, though.
Down to 10 men at 2-2 with 40 minutes left and with the fragility of your current defence, you'd be hard pushed to say that Arsenal were likely to go on and win from there.

I've watched the replay 5 times and each time, there's no case for him. It should have been cancelled out. And if it was going to stand, the referee should have sent him off for the celebration with the home fans.

I'm sorry but both of those statements are clearly untrue.
It didn't clearly hit his arm and he didn't run into the crowd.
One fan gets a hand on him, just about, before he's pulled away.
He didn't pile in and a second booking would've been ludicrously harsh.

Half of them seem to be Arsenal fans? I find that difficult to believe.

Really?
Remember what your board was like until the last few games?

Really? Spurs and Arsenal have been fine after games in Europe. It hasn't affected our chances of being in the top four, certainly.

We haven't reached the business end of it yet and the one side that you really had to win against (Udinese) saw you lose to Liverpool at home and then get mauled by Man Utd after each tie.
You also lost to Blackburn after the Dortmund game and us after the Olympiakos one.

I agree with you about Liverpool, but they don't have the hindrance of European football.
They can approach each game with an entire week of training dedicated to it, for the most part.
If there's a weakness in the opposition, then they'll have multiple training sessions to work on getting at it.
If they have one themselves, then they'll be able to focus on ironing it out.
It's quite an advantage.

The January window could be key.

 

[SolidSpur]

I think he's inconsistant and you could buy a better player.

Even if we don't play him, we could sell him for £20m in the summer anyway. Worth getting for the potential gain alone.

 

[NSIS]

We're not looking to (sur)mount a title challenge; we aim to retain our top four status.

What I have always thought was that the fight for a top 4 place would be between us, and possibly Liverpool. I'd stick by that view, unless you lot do your usual late season collapse.

 

[CanarySpurs]

Saying that NSIS, Liverpool drew at home to Swansea, (to add to drawing at home to Norwich. Hardly top 4 form at the moment.

 

[NSIS]

Saying that NSIS, Liverpool drew at home to Swansea, (to add to drawing at home to Norwich. Hardly top 4 form at the moment.

Are you implying that "king!kenny" is not infallible??.. Heresy!!