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Brexiteers talk about escaping an unelected regime - we are about to enter a period under a second PM in 2 years not elected by a GE.
Elections will only involve Tories - that's how Putin , Xi and Mr Kim get elected........
 
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bcfcredandwhite said:
Brexiteers talk about escaping an unelected regime - we are about to enter a period under a second PM in 2 years not elected by a GE.
Elections will only involve Tories - that's how Putin , Xi and Mr Kim get elected........
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I suppose you could have said that in 1976 and 2007 with Callaghan and Brown… but they were Labour weren’t they?

And, of course, we actually elect a party into power, not an individual!
 
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Reliant Robin TC2 said:
I suppose you could have said that in 1976 and 2007 with Callaghan and Brown… but they were Labour weren’t they?

And, of course, we actually elect a party into power, not an individual!
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Yes absolutely. But to change leader twice without consulting the country is unprecedented her e in the UK. Plus, the leader has a huge influence on the party people vote for - particularly ‘floating voters’ who are not bound to any particular party.
 
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Reliant Robin TC2 said:
I suppose you could have said that in 1976 and 2007 with Callaghan and Brown… but they were Labour weren’t they?

And, of course, we actually elect a party into power, not an individual!
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We elect a party, but we also vote based on the manifesto of each Party. Whoever takes over as next PM, we’ve no idea what their plans will be and they won’t have a mandate From the British people to carry them out. That’s really important at this time of unprecedented challenges, that any government is going to face, and it’s why there needs to be a GE, so the whole country can get behind the PM, and party of their choice.
 
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AshtonRed said:
We elect a party, but we also vote based on the manifesto of each Party. Whoever takes over as next PM, we’ve no idea what their plans will be and they won’t have a mandate From the British people to carry them out. That’s really important at this time of unprecedented challenges, that any government is going to face, and it’s why there needs to be a GE, so the whole country can get behind the PM, and party of their choice.
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Many of us 'thinking voters' do Ashton (myself included) - but many of us don't. Some people simply vote 'Conservative' or 'Labour' because that's what they've always done and that's what they always WILL do. Beelzebub himself (or worse - Putin) could be in charge of their party, but those 'static' people would still vote for it, because those people simply cannot (or won't) change their voting habits - they just can't - it's like some sort of weird loyalty thing.
It's the 'floating voters' that win or lose elections. The 'statics' are just a constant.
 
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oneforthebristolcity said:
Unless BJ gets in!!
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<laugh><laugh><laugh> Now THAT would be the most bizarre thing ever.
I think there's a very good chance he might. What a comedy state of affairs - well, it WOULD be funny if it wasn't our government, humiliating itself AND our country in front of a bemused world.
Boris would still lose a GE though. The 'Red Wall' will go back to voting Labour - they only voted Conservative as a 'one-off' because Corbyn wouldn't say what his Brexit policy was.
Frankly, I can't see how anyone would vote for the current Tory shower again - apart from for some people, the sheer terror of letting Starmer in.
 
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<laugh><laugh><laugh> Now THAT would be the most bizarre thing ever.
I think there's a very good chance he might. What a comedy state of affairs - well, it WOULD be funny if it wasn't our government, humiliating itself AND our country in front of a bemused world.
Boris would still lose a GE though. The 'Red Wall' will go back to voting Labour - they only voted Conservative as a 'one-off' because Corbyn wouldn't say what his Brexit policy was.
Frankly, I can't see how anyone would vote for the current Tory shower again - apart from for some people, the sheer terror of letting Starmer in.
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I think that's the concern to the Labour supporters.....I think if Boris was in, he would win in the next GE......and to be honest, if in the next GE Labour doesn'r win, I believe they should fold as a political party...it would show how bad they really are!!
 
AshtonRed said:
Much to do with average age of both, over here tend to be older posters, younger on average on OTIB
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It depends a lot on age - younger people tend to lean more to the left - largely because young people tend to be skint, having only just started their careers - and they have an natural juvenile need to be jealous and angry about stuff. It's 'trendy' to be a socialist when you're young.
For older people, things like pensions triple-lock and would be more important, and topics like immigration, (pro)Brexit - plus older people are far more likely to have savings than the youngsters, so protecting those things would be very dear to them.
Then you have the wealthy - they will almost always vote Tory. Poorer people from deprived areas almost always vote Labour. This transcends age.
 
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