Do we need a Strikers' Coach?

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Ledleysleftfoot

Ledleysleftfoot

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It seems that we have 4 'decent' strikers who, not for the want of trying, struggle to hit the target the bulk of the time. Even when they do get a strike a way then the quality is invariably missing.

I believe that we need to bring someone in to link the manager's ideas and the players natural patterns of moment - with the focus on producing a better quality end product.

Do you agree? If so, who?
 
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Ledleysleftfoot said:
It seems that we have 4 'decent' strikers who, not for the want of trying, struggle to hit the target the bulk of the time. Even when they do get a strike a way then the quality is invariably missing.

I believe that we need to bring someone in to link the manager's ideas and the players natural patterns of moment - with the focus on producing a better quality end product.

Do you agree? If so, who?
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Need a natural finisher to help.
Bothroyd? Chopra?
 
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Ledleysleftfoot said:
It seems that we have 4 'decent' strikers who, not for the want of trying, struggle to hit the target the bulk of the time. Even when they do get a strike a way then the quality is invariably missing.

I believe that we need to bring someone in to link the manager's ideas and the players natural patterns of moment - with the focus on producing a better quality end product.

Do you agree? If so, who?
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Steve Morison??? Well, he was a striker :emoticon-0110-tongu

To be fair, someone like Bothroyd could be a good shout but obviously coaching involves far more than just having had a decent skill set yourself.
Being able to coach and teach involves a whole skillset in its own right.
 
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Coaches are a waste of time, it is not asking much for a player to hit something as big as a goal. Compare to other sports, darts players hitting the scorer instead of double top, golfers putting from 6 yards and hitting someone in the crowd in the eye, a snooker player potting the black for a 147 and striking the other player sitting 10 yards away. It comes to something when a striker has to be told where the goalmouth is. The ball will follow the angle it is hit by the foot, follow your boot into the stand and that is where the ball is going. Keep the ball low and hit it sidefoot and follow through with your foot aimed at the goal. Tell the strikers if they dont hit the target they will not get paid, that is all the coaching they need.
 
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Coaches are a waste of time, it is not asking much for a player to hit something as big as a goal. Compare to other sports, darts players hitting the scorer instead of double top, golfers putting from 6 yards and hitting someone in the crowd in the eye, a snooker player potting the black for a 147 and striking the other player sitting 10 yards away. It comes to something when a striker has to be told where the goalmouth is. The ball will follow the angle it is hit by the foot, follow your boot into the stand and that is where the ball is going. Keep the ball low and hit it sidefoot and follow through with your foot aimed at the goal. Tell the strikers if they dont hit the target they will not get paid, that is all the coaching they need.
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:huh:
 
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Coaches are a waste of time, it is not asking much for a player to hit something as big as a goal. Compare to other sports, darts players hitting the scorer instead of double top, golfers putting from 6 yards and hitting someone in the crowd in the eye, a snooker player potting the black for a 147 and striking the other player sitting 10 yards away. It comes to something when a striker has to be told where the goalmouth is. The ball will follow the angle it is hit by the foot, follow your boot into the stand and that is where the ball is going. Keep the ball low and hit it sidefoot and follow through with your foot aimed at the goal. Tell the strikers if they dont hit the target they will not get paid, that is all the coaching they need.
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Sorry mate but even the very best still get coached.

Coaches can study players from an objective position and pick up on any traits or habits that can be improved/tweaked/cut out etc.

EVERYONE can still learn regardless of how good you are at whatever you do.
 
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BrizzleBluebird said:
Sorry mate but even the very best still get coached.

Coaches can study players from an objective position and pick up on any traits or habits that can be improved/tweaked/cut out etc.

EVERYONE can still learn regardless of how good you are at whatever you do.
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Yeah, Im sure Haaland doesn't get any coaching.

He just keeps the ball low and hit it sidefoot and follow through with his foot aimed at the goal.

Not sure about his headed goals though.
 
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BrizzleBluebird said:
Sorry mate but even the very best still get coached.

Coaches can study players from an objective position and pick up on any traits or habits that can be improved/tweaked/cut out etc.

EVERYONE can still learn regardless of how good you are at whatever you do.
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Have you seen premiership strikers wild shots? What good has coaching done them. If coaches were any good they should have all the strikers playing like Halaand.
 
Fair play to jack, I can't count the number of times I've seen a darts player cover ten yards at pace and release his arrow in full stride. Or the golfer who rises majestically above the players defending the hole. Or the snooker player drifting past the last defender before sinking the black.
Not the best of comparisons mate but no doubt you got what you came for.

Back to the topic. If we could afford a coach that coul make a difference, it's a no brainer in my opinion. If you look closely at the table, a team able to regularly score is going to do well in the Championship.
 
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Ledleysleftfoot said:
It seems that we have 4 'decent' strikers who, not for the want of trying, struggle to hit the target the bulk of the time. Even when they do get a strike a way then the quality is invariably missing.

I believe that we need to bring someone in to link the manager's ideas and the players natural patterns of moment - with the focus on producing a better quality end product.

Do you agree? If so, who?
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I have to question "4 decent strikers".

Watters, Div 1 maybe, not Championship.

Harris, good at pressing, closing down, making life hard for defenders. 2 good goals this season but I can't see him getting 10 plus.

Etete, the jury's still out, but not a previous good strike rate.

Robinson, worth his fee but a better creator than scorer. Very valuable to the team.

You missed a possible 5th in Isaak Davies but to me he his a winger not a striker.

And a 6th in Leahy. Not had a chance yet but could be the most natural striker of all given time.
 
Let's face it, Watters has proven at a lower level that he knows how to find the back of the net and runs his heart out. Harris has the ability but lacks composure and/or self belief. Etete looks big and gangly but Spurs are no mugs and must have seen something in him. Robinson, well he just needs some practice in composure.

As a colleague of mine once said... "It's a matter of will or skill. If they don't have the skill then you can teach that. However if they have no will then don't waste time on them"

I think that certainly 3 of those 4 have the will.

As for Davies then I believe that he can, in time, play off a target/hold up man. However that's not put style at the moment. Therefore he may be better suited down the right and getting to the far post
 
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Coaches are a waste of time, it is not asking much for a player to hit something as big as a goal. Compare to other sports, darts players hitting the scorer instead of double top, golfers putting from 6 yards and hitting someone in the crowd in the eye, a snooker player potting the black for a 147 and striking the other player sitting 10 yards away. It comes to something when a striker has to be told where the goalmouth is. The ball will follow the angle it is hit by the foot, follow your boot into the stand and that is where the ball is going. Keep the ball low and hit it sidefoot and follow through with your foot aimed at the goal. Tell the strikers if they dont hit the target they will not get paid, that is all the coaching they need.
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Confidence, placing, composure, fitness, strategy, decision making, link up play.

I'm sure that, in the relatively relaxed surroundings of a training ground, Watters impresses daily and gives the impression that he'd be pulling up trees come the next game day. Why else would manager after manager give him opportunities?

Therefore he must lack in other facets of the role that can't easily be replicated on the training ground. The psychology of the striker is equally important as the ability. It's a lonely role up there by yourself and, in my most humble opinion, unless you're of a bomb-proof mentality then the club would be better off playing two in tandem.

Thorne & Earnie (or with Fortune-West), Jay & Chops, Stant & Dale et all. Better in pairs or isolated by themselves? Which would you choose?
 
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jck200 said:
Coaches are a waste of time, it is not asking much for a player to hit something as big as a goal. Compare to other sports, darts players hitting the scorer instead of double top, golfers putting from 6 yards and hitting someone in the crowd in the eye, a snooker player potting the black for a 147 and striking the other player sitting 10 yards away. It comes to something when a striker has to be told where the goalmouth is. The ball will follow the angle it is hit by the foot, follow your boot into the stand and that is where the ball is going. Keep the ball low and hit it sidefoot and follow through with your foot aimed at the goal. Tell the strikers if they dont hit the target they will not get paid, that is all the coaching they need.
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Confidence, placing, composure, fitness, strategy, decision making, link up play.

I'm sure that, in the relatively relaxed surroundings of a training ground, Watters impresses daily and gives the impression that he'd be pulling up trees come the next game day. Why else would manager after manager give him opportunities?

Therefore he must lack in other facets of the role that can't easily be replicated on the training ground. The psychology of the striker is equally important as the ability. It's a lonely role up there by yourself and, in my most humble opinion, unless you're of a bomb-proof mentality then the club would be better off playing two in tandem.

Thorne & Earnie (or with Fortune-West), Jay & Chops, Stant & Dale et all. Better in pairs or isolated by themselves? Which would you choose?
 
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