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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    And therein lies the problem with today's polarised views.
    A Tory....therefore....must be a ****. <doh>
     
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  2. Archers Road

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    Hardly a controversial statement, I wouldn’t have though, given the state of the country after 12 years of those ****s in power.
     
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  3. rangercol

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    I rest my case.
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

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    Shy Tories are fine.
     
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    The sort of police chief who wouldn't get past 1st base with Sadiq Khan. That's why the murders will keep on happening...

     
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  8. Star of David Bardsley

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    Explains America’s notoriously low murder rate.
     
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  9. Goldhawk-Road

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    Khan would have him resign immediately for even suggesting that the bulk of violent crime they face is psychopathic young black men, often gang member, killing other young black men, most definitely including those that are trying to make something of their lives
     
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  10. Stroller

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    You live in Sussex don't you? Why are you so obsessed with violent crime in London and not that in the West Midlands say, which is soaring. Oh, wait a minute, the West Midlands Mayor is a white Tory, isn't he?
     
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  11. Goldhawk-Road

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    I was born in London, I lived and worked in London. That is what I know. I barely know the West Midlands, do you? Nor do I know Manchester where there's a Labour mayor.

    In London, 48% of murder suspects are black, compared with 13% of the population. There's an underclass which cannot be ignored
     
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    Ex speaker and serial bully John Bercow banned from Parliament for life. <bubbly>
     
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  13. Stroller

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    You're keen to point out that violent crime in London is predominately black on black, though - which I wouldn't dispute, but I'd prefer to describe it as gang member on gang member. The same sort of crime is going on in Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham but no one describes it as white on white or suggests that it would be ok to stop and search random white people for no good reason.
     
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    You added this bit after I replied. Yes, there is an underclass in London, just as there is in other major cities of the UK. It's a poverty and exclusion issue, not a race one.
     
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    in England 13% of murder suspects are black, compared with 3% of the population. So a multiple of more than 4.
    2010 figures. I doubt things have improved,
     
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    Suspects?!
     
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  17. Goldhawk-Road

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    It's like for like with white suspects, unless you feel that four times as many black suspects are found not-guilty than white suspects.

    In London, 42% of murder victims are black.
     
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    Wouldn't you say convictions would be a more reliable statistic? Where does it come from?
     
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    Wiki.

    see the % of victims I've added. It does no one any good to ignore and not address the problem. Least of all black people
     
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    Where on Wiki?

    Yes, of course we should address the problem of violent crime, but I don't believe it's a race issue. I'd say it means addressing the gang issue, which is mainly drug related. The drug gangs in Liverpool and Manchester (who also kill each other) are predominately white. It's related to poverty and exclusion, not race.
     
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