Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Not true about O'Brien. He was given his marching orders for his extreme views on Brexit and Trump:

MediaGuido had heard a few whispers about why James O’Brien had been canned by Newsnight – chiefly that BBC bosses were fed up with his Trumpian hyper-partisan attention-seeking both on their programme, on Twitter and elsewhere. One insider says they simply ran out of patience with him always going off on one.

He was a pain and people were delighted to see him go.

Pascal - he can have any position you like, he will still be partial to his own country and the power project that France and Germany started up. No one's saying he shouldn't be giving his views on the BBC. But it's essential to have an opposing view as something as important as Brexit. And it's interesting that the Armageddon prophecies of the Remain economists have not come to pass. There was barely a trickle of talent out of the City, and plenty coming the other way to continue to do business in London. So the Andrea Leadsome's got it right, even if they didn't have a flash title.

'MediaGuido had heard a few whispers' <laugh>

Lamy wasn't giving his views about Brexit or the EU, he was stating facts about WTO terms, his area of expertise.
 
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Weird how I have a minority opinion and I’m paranoid and some sort of biblical figure.

I totally respect your opinion, Ubes, and as to the biblical figure, I was thinking more Nick Clegg, though I realise now that's defamatory and I retract it!

In all these things where government and its departments have citizen's information, it has to be handled sensitively. Think of the stuff the NHS holds on people, STI's, abortions, boils on the bum, you name it. And there would have to be strict rules on use of information on ID cards with a criminal sanction against government or quasi government misusers.

If it sorts out the illegals and Black Economy, I'm really for it.
 
'MediaGuido had heard a few whispers' <laugh>

Lamy wasn't giving his views about Brexit or the EU, he was stating facts about WTO terms, his area of expertise.

There's tons of evidence on O'Brien. Open your eyes and don't believe the excuses of the man himself. This from the Express

"In one incident during his stint on BBC Newsnight that he was widely criticised for, Mr O’Brien attacked a US journalist for criticising press coverage of Donald Trump.

Appearing on the show Asra Nomani and said the US press had “vilified” the President.

However, rather than impartially listening to the views of his guest the BBC host dismissed the claims of Ms Nomani and went on to criticise Trump himself.

Speaking on his radio show in November he also said the Brexit would be “inferior” to EU membership.

It’s been reported in the media that the BBC scrapped Mr O’Brien because they became frustrated with the lefty’s egotistical approach to presenting."
 
There's tons of evidence on O'Brien. Open your eyes and don't believe the excuses of the man himself. This from the Express

"In one incident during his stint on BBC Newsnight that he was widely criticised for, Mr O’Brien attacked a US journalist for criticising press coverage of Donald Trump.

Appearing on the show Asra Nomani and said the US press had “vilified” the President.

However, rather than impartially listening to the views of his guest the BBC host dismissed the claims of Ms Nomani and went on to criticise Trump himself.

Speaking on his radio show in November he also said the Brexit would be “inferior” to EU membership.

It’s been reported in the media that the BBC scrapped Mr O’Brien because they became frustrated with the lefty’s egotistical approach to presenting."

Guido Fawkes and the Daily Express, two bastions of impartiality.
 
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Guido Fawkes and the Daily Express, two bastions of impartiality.

If he had gone from the BBC with goodwill, then the BBC would have said so and wished him well. When asked, they decline to comment.

He's a "Gotcha" shock jock and barely anyone appears on his LBC programme, apart from Sadiq Khan which says everything.
 
As I've said before, I consider myself to be a small 'c' conservative and a wannabe libertarian, so I just happen to believe my stance on ID cards to be wholly consistent with that. I don't much like the state interfering in the lives of the people and would prefer little government and big freedoms. That we already do this and have to do that are not great arguments for having more.

I'd have thought that supporting Brexit and being opposed to ID cards are wholly consistent positions, both anti-large state control and all that jazz.

But, hey, it's gonna happen sometime, so we're all gonna have to get used to it.
 
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From what I can see, ID cards are:

1. Cheaper, as Strolls has said.

2. Smaller - just like a bank card kept permanently in the wallet

3. They can be used digitally/ with biometrics etc

So for domestic use, good. But obviously, going abroad, a passport is better

What does it matter?
Not everyone has a passport and if a copper wants to see my ID, I'm not going to start screaming "I'm being oppressed".
As said previously, we're tracked throughout our lives by everything we do and if you've nothing to hide, what's the problem?

Fair enough. Not sure I care enough any more that I'd be too fussed if they introduced it. Still not totally sold on the need but not a hill I'd die on.