Match Day Thread Sunderland Vs QPR

[QPRski]

I gather that mate. We should be going wild celebrating that point!

Agreed! It made my day!

“If” we now get good results in the forthcoming home matches then I will be very pleased.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Talking of goalkeeper contributions, Joe Lumley in fine form for the Falsehoops...

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[Uber_Hoop]

Stroking a skunk.....

She’s pure filth.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

Chill out everyone.....and please be respectful

People are allowed to say we were pretty awful, without being slated ...and you can definitely enjoy the result and the manner of the result...and still say we were awful, we didn't deserve it...but I loved it.

And please Bobmid keep posting match results...you were there most of us weren't..and no you can't see the same thing from a TV feed.





. Yes we were ****e for a big stretch of the match...but we took a point through sheer force of will, a bit of skill from Chair, and a lot of luck.

But Sunderland , yes newly promoted, but will be no pushover. So it was a good point.

Beale, is still moulding the team and tactics, and with the injuries we have, he has a few positions in which he has little choice at the moment.

It looks as though the team may look different on Tuesday.

Personally when Dieng scored ( and it came through on my phone), I was stroking a skunk at a festival wedding in a field....

Pictures are available...and it is a "where were you when Seny scored" moment

Constructive criticism is fine by me but I'm delighted we got back into it when we looked beaten. The performance obviously can and I both hope and believe will improve and the team certainly will when starting players get match fitness. There are only 44 more games in which to improve. The time when I was deeply critical was under Redknapp when:

• we squandered a glorious start by settling for 1-0 wins and showboating;
• we didn't turn up to score at all in the Play Off final until that Bobby Zamora moment; and
• the following season when Redknapp used to send them out away from home with the sole aim of getting away from the ground without being beaten. I saw the most dire, uninspiring negative attitude I have ever seen from my team . It reminded me of exactly the same pointless attitude under Hughes when I watched game after game hoping to see a single shot and the very occasional bit of adventurous play. Never again.

 

[QPR Oslo]

He didn't name names but Beale said we'd have a couple back for Tuesday and a couple more for the weekend. That'll be most of them back if true, sure it won't quite pan out like that.

We might look back on yesterday as an important point in our season.

If I remember it all right, WLS have Beale saying Paal should be ok for Tuesday with Willock ready for some minutes then too. Plus Laird should be available Tuesday! They also have Beale saying Salter, Amos and Richards will be out this month and probably until after the International break. One should be back for next w.e. - my guess is that meant Thomas.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

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[rangercol]

I found your comments illuminating, Bob. We all know the team's play is not really persuasive at the moment, so it was helpful to have your insightful comments. It does show some fighting spirit and resilience, does it not, that we come back from two goals down while playing away at a full stadium? Sunderland aren't a bad team. They beat Bristol City away.

There's definitely something there for MB to work on, when we get players back from knocks. We need to stay patient.

I agree with all of this.
However, whenever anyone comments that the team aren't playing well, they're labelled doom and gloom merchants and accused of having no perspective.

There's nothing wrong with calling it as it is imo.
Yesterday, no one was saying that our season was doomed or that we're always going to be crap.
Most agreed that we were poor in the first half; that we were much improved 2nd half after Roberts came on; Chair was really struggling, but won high praise for pulling that free kick out and we all were thrilled with the ending and the point gained.

I refuse to be blindly happy clappy, just because one or two on here refuse to see any fault whatsoever, deeming it impatience, which it obviously isn't.

 

[Stroller]

I agree with all of this.
However, whenever anyone comments that the team aren't playing well, they're labelled doom and gloom merchants and accused of having no perspective.

There's nothing wrong with calling it as it is imo.
Yesterday, no one was saying that our season was doomed or that we're always going to be crap.
Most agreed that we were poor in the first half; that we were much improved 2nd half after Roberts came on; Chair was really struggling, but won high praise for pulling that free kick out and we all were thrilled with the ending and the point gained.

I refuse to be blindly happy clappy, just because one or two on here refuse to see any fault whatsoever, deeming it impatience, which it obviously isn't.

Of course there's nothing wrong with being critical or telling it like it is, and no one's refusing to see any fault. It's just a question of balance.

 

[bobmid]

Of course Bob should continue to say it how he sees it, Beth. I have no problem with realism, but Bob's report seemed to me to be all gloom without taking any joy out of the fact that our keeper equalised in the last minute. Still, I apologise Bob, carry on giving us your expert views. Little Bob the echo should continue, too.

I always will pal and you feel free to keep wearing those blinkers as and when suits.

 

[bobmid]

I found your comments illuminating, Bob. We all know the team's play is not really persuasive at the moment, so it was helpful to have your insightful comments. It does show some fighting spirit and resilience, does it not, that we come back from two goals down while playing away at a full stadium? Sunderland aren't a bad team. They beat Bristol City away.

There's definitely something there for MB to work on, when we get players back from knocks. We need to stay patient.

As I originally said, it showed character. The game was all but over (as thousands left the stadium). I won't gloss over the cracks though. There were plenty of them and the returning players will only improve us....hopefully. it was a bit like the season hasn't really started for us yet. I said at the beginning that I didn't have any expectations this year and having seen that, I haven't changed my mind. It will be a typical championship season, win one, lose one, draw one etc etc.

 

[bobmid]

I agree with all of this.
However, whenever anyone comments that the team aren't playing well, they're labelled doom and gloom merchants and accused of having no perspective.

There's nothing wrong with calling it as it is imo.
Yesterday, no one was saying that our season was doomed or that we're always going to be crap.
Most agreed that we were poor in the first half; that we were much improved 2nd half after Roberts came on; Chair was really struggling, but won high praise for pulling that free kick out and we all were thrilled with the ending and the point gained.

I refuse to be blindly happy clappy, just because one or two on here refuse to see any fault whatsoever, deeming it impatience, which it obviously isn't.

It's a strange one really, wild scenes and joy that Dieng grabbed an equaliser, made all the stranger by being a keeper. As the bloke infront of me said, we are going crazy cos we sent the keeper up ffs, surely we aren't relying on those tactics.

 

[bobmid]

I will leave people to draw their own conclusions. Football is about opinions, mine is, we burgled the stadium of light and did a runner. Happy with the point, dissapointed with the performance and tactics. Best player for us was Roberts by a country mile.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

I agree with all of this.
However, whenever anyone comments that the team aren't playing well, they're labelled doom and gloom merchants and accused of having no perspective.

There's nothing wrong with calling it as it is imo.
Yesterday, no one was saying that our season was doomed or that we're always going to be crap.
Most agreed that we were poor in the first half; that we were much improved 2nd half after Roberts came on; Chair was really struggling, but won high praise for pulling that free kick out and we all were thrilled with the ending and the point gained.

I refuse to be blindly happy clappy, just because one or two on here refuse to see any fault whatsoever, deeming it impatience, which it obviously isn't.

I agree. I personally find it interesting and instructive to have the critical views of posters who have played the game at a high level. So I read Bob's observations carefully and found them helpful. There was, however, a very apparent underlying current of frustration and exasperation. I think this could be downplayed because we know we're not in a stable place having just changed the manager after failure, and find that our thin squad is even thinner through injury. Given those, the fact that MB made the right calls on subs and the team had the desire it showed late in the second half to score two goals and get an away point are definite grounds for optimism.

So keep up the perceptive comments and criticisms, don't hold back but if possible, keep some sense of positivity too, and give credit where manager and team merit it.

 

[rangercol]

Of course there's nothing wrong with being critical or telling it like it is, and no one's refusing to see any fault. It's just a question of balance.

Totally agree.

 

[rangercol]

I agree. I personally find it interesting and instructive to have the critical views of posters who have played the game at a high level. So I read Bob's observations carefully and found them helpful. There was, however, a very apparent underlying current of frustration and exasperation. I think this could be downplayed because we know we're not in a stable place having just changed the manager after failure, and find that our thin squad is even thinner through injury. Given those, the fact that MB made the right calls on subs and the team had the desire it showed late in the second half to score two goals and get an away point are definite grounds for optimism.

So keep up the perceptive comments and criticisms, don't hold back but if possible, keep some sense of positivity too, and give credit where manager and team merit it.

Exactly what I did yesterday.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Exactly what I did yesterday.

Totally accept that.

 

[rangercol]

It's a strange one really, wild scenes and joy that Dieng grabbed an equaliser, made all the stranger by being a keeper. As the bloke infront of me said, we are going crazy cos we sent the keeper up ffs, surely we aren't relying on those tactics.

Obviously we're not relying on the tactic of sending the keeper up for a last minute corner.
It's just something everyone does.
I don't think we were as bad overall as you yesterday, but as you say, it's all opinions.

 

[SwanHills]

Stroking a skunk.....

Well, Stick, know very little about skunks (the animal kind, of course), but maybe the one in question was happy and content to be stroked, and did not set-off his defensive mechanism with a few fierce stink bombs? Just a thought. One needs to read-up from experts on the species. I won't bother, thank you.

 

[mapleranger]

Well having been sprayed by a skunk I didn't know was there, I can say that if it permitted stroking, it must have been de scented or very young. That was a thoroughly unpleasant experience - one I am not anxious to repeat

 

[Uber_Hoop]

I’ll stick to poking beavers.