Off Topic Knees have done one.

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
Status
Not open for further replies.
Muzz said:
The people who it was for didn't even all agree with it which says it all really. Well intentioned, but ultimately ineffective. We haven't done it for sometime if I'm correct?
Click to expand...
The Club I was at when it first happened had a black player who used to just stand there and look perplexed. When I asked him why he didn't join in his exact words were 'because its all f***ing show, you're either a racist **** or you're not and some of the players doing it are racist as ****'. I was responsible for making the club the first Rugby League club to sign the Muslim Athlete charter and 2 players who I have seen taking the knee made racist comments about muslims/asians off the back of it. For me it is pointless symbolism and will never make a difference to the root of the issue.

Anyone can bend down on one knee or wear a t-shirt with a slogan on. The way to deal with this is be a responsible human being and make sure your kids are brought up knowing that skin colour should not be a factor in how you behave towards someone. They are born without prejudice and any racist views they gain are caused by learned behaviour. The problem we have is a very large percentage of people who are not fit to become parents and will happily share racist views, swear, smoke or get pissed in front of their kids.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Phinius T Bookbinder, HullCiteh, Gone For A Walk and 2 others
Yes when all is said and done it is a pointless empty gesture, but ultimately there are people who were actually against it. For some unfathomable reason, as they will claim it’s not because they’re racist. As long as those ‘people’ breathe then it should continue.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sir Cheshire Ben
Amin Yapusi said:
Yes when all is said and done it is a pointless empty gesture, but ultimately there are people who were actually against it. For some unfathomable reason, as they will claim it’s not because they’re racist. As long as those ‘people’ breathe then it should continue.
Click to expand...
I was and am 100% against it. If you need it explaining as to why then there's really not much hope for you.
Lot of sense from JimTheTiger.
It's surely time 'we' (media, politically motivated groups, etc) stopped this continual highlighting of the differences; as has been said, most people, especially the young, don't even really notice the differences. Similar with homophobia, gender issues, etc - take the air away from those who have financial or political reasons for keeping the spotlight on. Instead, just have the authorities take meaningful action against real acts of racism and discrimination.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Phinius T Bookbinder, west stand stiffs, THE EXCLUSIVE 10% and 2 others
Gone For A Walk said:
I was and am 100% against it. If you need it explaining as to why then there's really not much hope for you.
Lot of sense from JimTheTiger.
It's surely time 'we' (media, politically motivated groups, etc) stopped this continual highlighting of the differences; as has been said, most people, especially the young, don't even really notice the differences. Similar with homophobia, gender issues, etc - take the air away from those who have financial or political reasons for keeping the spotlight on. Instead, just have the authorities take meaningful action against real acts of racism and discrimination.
Click to expand...

What is it hurting, what damage does it cause? Seriously. The only reason people want it gone is because they don’t like it. The kind of people who say all lives matter.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Stockholm Tiger, Sir Cheshire Ben and NewcastleTiger
Amin Yapusi said:
What is it hurting, what damage does it cause? Seriously. The only reason people want it gone is because they don’t like it. The kind of people who say all lives matter.
Click to expand...
Asks the person who goes by the user name 'Amin Yapusi'.
You couldn't make it up really.
 
Gone For A Walk said:
Asks the person who goes by the user name 'Amin Yapusi'.
You couldn't make it up really.
Click to expand...
What’s that got to do with anything? It has eventually become an empty gesture, but it infuriated a certain demographic of people early doors which meant it definitely had purpose at one point. Now as you say the clubs need to take a more hands on direct approach but i worry that what your views are if something as harmless as that has had you always against it for the last 2 years…
 
EDIT:
Ok, maybe I shouldn't have added that last sentence ("If you need it explaining as to why then there's really not much hope for you).
But,
a) this wording in the OP wound me up a little ....... "For some unfathomable reason, as they will claim it’s not because they’re racist. As long as those ‘people’ breathe then it should continue".
b) I have strong views about the empty, divisive gesturing that has links back to a destructive politically motivated movement (I know there are other links, history, etc). I would much rather see integrity from all those involved in these empty gestures; JTT touched on this, and it goes further with things like the 'respect' campaign / slogan (v's what many of them then do themselves in reality). I'd rather see real action.
c) how can someone with a username of 'Amin Yapusi' credibly give an opinion on a topic related to racism, respect, discrimination? Seriously.

Post pre-edit:
I've stated my view and given my comments. I'm not getting into a tedious slanging match or whatever. If in some people's opinion what I've said makes me somehow racist, seem like a ****, or whatever, then fine. I know I'm not and that's what matters. Taking the knee was and continues to be utterly ridiculous, as is someone spouting off about things like this behind a user name of 'Amin Yapusi'.
Carry on, waste your day, if you wish..
 
Last edited:
Gone For A Walk said:
I've stated my view and given my comments. I'm not getting into a tedious slanging match or whatever. If in some people's opinion what I've said makes me somehow racist, seem like a ****, or whatever, then fine. I know I'm not and that's what matters. Taking the knee was and continues to be utterly ridiculous, as is someone spouting off about things like this behind a user name of 'Amin Yapusi'.
Carry on, waste your day, if you wish..
Click to expand...
Racist ****
 
Gone For A Walk said:
I've stated my view and given my comments. I'm not getting into a tedious slanging match or whatever. If in some people's opinion what I've said makes me somehow racist, seem like a ****, or whatever, then fine. I know I'm not and that's what matters. Taking the knee was and continues to be utterly ridiculous, as is someone spouting off about things like this behind a user name of 'Amin Yapusi'.
Carry on, waste your day, if you wish..
Click to expand...

That is exactly what you have instigated and if you need it explaining as to why there’s really not much hope for you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Des Head and Sir Cheshire Ben
Gone For A Walk said:
I was and am 100% against it. If you need it explaining as to why then there's really not much hope for you.
Lot of sense from JimTheTiger.
It's surely time 'we' (media, politically motivated groups, etc) stopped this continual highlighting of the differences; as has been said, most people, especially the young, don't even really notice the differences. Similar with homophobia, gender issues, etc - take the air away from those who have financial or political reasons for keeping the spotlight on. Instead, just have the authorities take meaningful action against real acts of racism and discrimination.
Click to expand...
Some woman broadcaster was saying she couldn’t celebrate the women’s win because of the lack of diversity in the team. <laugh>
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jeff Lynnes PBCW™
NewcastleTiger said:
What’s that got to do with anything? It has eventually become an empty gesture, but it infuriated a certain demographic of people early doors which meant it definitely had purpose at one point. Now as you say the clubs need to take a more hands on direct approach but i worry that what your views are if something as harmless as that has had you always against it for the last 2 years…
Click to expand...

Yes, it infuriated people who thought this was all brought about by the death of an extremely unpleasant individual. There were far more deserving cases which would have received more support.
 
Cityzen said:
Yes, it infuriated people who thought this was all brought about by the death of an extremely unpleasant individual. There were far more deserving cases which would have received more support.
Click to expand...
He served time for his crime, are you suggesting because of what he did in 2007 we should turn our eyes away from a police officer kneeling on the back of his neck until he stopped breathing? This was over him allegedly using a counterfeit 20$ note…
 
Come on folks, OLM's already asked nicely. We won't be standing for too much more. :police:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom
Back