Match Day Thread Liverpool v Manchester United

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RogerisontheHunt said:
De Gea has gotten off lightly after last night. Its only cause of how **** the rest are that nobody has noticed that he did nothing.

Well he stood and shouted at others when the goals went, but thats about it. Did he even make any saves?

Part of his job is to organise the team and the defence, clearly he's not doing that as they're all over the show.
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very harsh imo. Think he’s been one of uniteds better players this season and without him would be far less points. Not sure he had any chance with the 4 goals. 1 was a tap in. Second was shot from 6 yards out. 3rd was perfectly into the corner. And 4th took big deflection over him.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
he tried to pick a fight with trent and shouted a bit at his defenders until it was 2-0 then gave up. they were rudderless in every line of the park.

I for one couldn't justify the wages on de gea but most of all if i had to put up with panic ridden lindeloff and pants maguire as a manager i would probably just drill them as a very high line and rely on a keeper to sweep up. they simply cant run and defend so stepping out is the only recourse. De gea doesn't do it very well. simple as. for the wage (which is a kings ransom) its simply unjustifiable.


My utd cull list

POGBA
De Gea
Ronaldo
Maguire
Lindeloff
shaw
Martial
Wan biscuit
Greenwood
Cavani
Matic
Mata
rashford
bailly
jones
Dalot
fred
ven de beek

Bascially I' think to myself

telles, Mctominay, sancho, maybe fernandes. the rest would be gone.
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Sorry you’d play a high line with Maguire and Lindeloff, two players that can’t run, and de gea who doesn’t leave his line? You did see our first goal when they played a high line last night?
 
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Crazy some of the money utd have spent on that ****. Most expensive defender in Maguire. Most expensive midfielder in pogba and both are shocking.

Bissaka is complete average too and cost a ridiculous amount.
 
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
Sorry you’d play a high line with Maguire and Lindeloff, two players that can’t run, and de gea who doesn’t leave his line? You did see our first goal when they played a high line last night?
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I would if I had a keeper who would leave his line.

My point is the low block is toxic. You take the two statues who can't run anyway and stand them up the park and running out so they catch lads offside. The arsenal game.

Utds issue is the forwards are isolated and don't track back so they have to close the gaps some way and one good way is to create that massive space behind the slab and the panicker.

The problem is de gea doesn't want to patrol that space like ederson or alisson etc.

Our first goals was not down to a high line it was down to a total uncontrolled position with zero offside. Zero pressure on mane. 2 lfc players in behind dalot who doesn't see anything etc etc.

We play the high line all the time and compress the pitch.
 
jaffaklopp said:
Crazy some of the money utd have spent on that ****. Most expensive defender in Maguire. Most expensive midfielder in pogba and both are shocking.

Bissaka is complete average too and cost a ridiculous amount.
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highest wages to a keeper ever in proem
highest wages to any player ever in prem
Most expensive CM
Most expensive CB
Highest wages overall in prem
Highest net spend in prem.
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
I would if I had a keeper who would leave his line.

My point is the low block is toxic. You take the two statues who can't run anyway and stand them up the park and running out so they catch lads offside. The arsenal game.

Utds issue is the forwards are isolated and don't track back so they have to close the gaps some way and one good way is to create that massive space behind the slab and the panicker.

The problem is de gea doesn't want to patrol that space like ederson or alisson etc.

Our first goals was not down to a high line it was down to a total uncontrolled position with zero offside. Zero pressure on mane. 2 lfc players in behind dalot who doesn't see anything etc etc.

We play the high line all the time and compress the pitch.
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since they don't pressure the oppo midfield even with a sweeper keeper they would get ripped to shreds .
I like your thinking :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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DiogoJotaSuper said:
Heads rolling in Manchester United two chief scouts were sacked.
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thats the guys recommending to pay massive wages?

they need to take out the guy who agreed.

Lets just look at their thinking

sancho. 75mil. vast wage. absolutely demanded by fans. someone approved this move,, i doubt a cheif scout did.
ronaldo. ego trip singing. again i doubt the chief scout was involved.
Maguire. demande dby mourinho was it? then agent ole and utd paid even more than they would have under mourinho
and on and on and on.

There's someone making rank calls at a high level at utd. i assum utd fans would know.

What LFC know is that once ayre and rodgers **** show was moved aside and Mike gordan sat on them all LFC have applied the same thinking rhgiht througg. Style of player, 100% money ball blah blah and klop says yes or no.

any system where horse trading exists where a mangers says benteke and the rests say ok but you have to have firmino too... it just cannot work. we got rid.

Look at the signings and the finger prints all over them.

grujic. double money- moneyball signing
Matip - klopp demanded him instant he arrived.
wijnaludum ? theres a bit of being followed for a long time.
klavan - klopp
karius ? no sure who thought this was value but it was clear klopp wanted a change
mane - klopp clearly stated he wanted him and moved for him asap. again klopp mentioned watching him when dortmund coach
robertson - moneyball signing. kolpp said he had to be convinced.
ox - another klopp talked about wanting him for a long time.
Salah - klopp said it was a moneyball type signing he was convinced by edwards
vvd: klopp
shaqiri - moneyball
fabinho - not sure but it looked moneyball to me.
keita 100% klopp
alisson: again its ah he is available? get him quick. klopp move.
minime - moneyball
van den berg - moneyball
lonergan - WTF
Davies WTF
Kabak- moneyball
Jota - i've not heard who had this bright idea but it worked well
Thiago - klopp
diaz - as per jota.
konate - who knows.


It seems to be the longer this has gone on the more in tune they are. Klopp still calls the tune but the teams are finding exactly the sort of player he wants and needs. theres few enough gambles in there for value like shaq or minime really.

I get the distinct feel that in contrast someone at utd has a love of a target man forward, and goes about taking in whatever flash player is mentioned like varane or sancho or ronaldo. the van de beek signing is also totally inexplicable.
 
This sucks... 4 hours to go until I could watch the game and I saw the score. ☹️

Oh well, at least we won, so I know to be in a good mood whilst watching it tonight.

So anyhow, Hi, I'm back on here earlier than planned.
 
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Blue and Yellow Potato said:
This sucks... 4 hours to go until I could watch the game and I saw the score. ☹️

Oh well, at least we won, so I know to be in a good mood whilst watching it tonight.

So anyhow, Hi, I'm back on here earlier than planned.
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You get banned again? <laugh>
 
DiogoJotaSuper said:
Heads rolling in Manchester United two chief scouts were sacked.
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Yeah, because it's the scouts fault!

United have had plenty of fantastic players who would, and have, prospered and performed well at other clubs. The problem isn't that they haven't signed good players (although they've certainly overpaid at times).

I suspect there is a cultural problem amongst the coaches and players at the club. Incidentally, what I've heard about their new coach is he's a tight arse that takes no crap... So probably who and what they need to turn things around.
 
jaffaklopp said:
Like our mods would ban anyone. Wimps
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I heard some guy named Milk who was a really fantastic poster got banned and that's why he's not around anymore. I heard it was for something stupid like daring to ask the question "is Andy Gibbs offensive?"
 
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