Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I think the biggest problem viewing what is going on is proportionality, Russia has to all intents and purposes totally destroyed the 2nd largest country in Europe after saying for months it had no intention of invading when everyone knew it would. It continues to say all the horrific videos of atrocities are 'staged' when many have been witnessed in plain sight and captured conscripts give evidence that civilian areas were targeted.

Yes, there were atrocities carried out by 'Nazi' groups over the years but the response is beyond any reasonable level, that is why the vast majority view Russia as the bad guys. They have a long history of this sort of thing and the fact they lie to their own people about it speaks volumes...
 
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Sooperhoop said:
I think the biggest problem viewing what is going on is proportionality, Russia has to all intents and purposes totally destroyed the 2nd largest country in Europe after saying for months it had no intention of invading when everyone knew it would. It continues to say all the horrific videos of atrocities are 'staged' when many have been witnessed in plain sight and captured conscripts give evidence that civilian areas were targeted.

Yes, there were atrocities carried out by 'Nazi' groups over the years but the response is beyond any reasonable level, that is why the vast majority view Russia as the bad guys. They have a long history of this sort of thing and the fact they lie to their own people about it speaks volumes...
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Spot on.
Eloquently put.
 
rangercol said:
I clearly didn't "overlook the wrong doings of our side". Why would you say that when I pointedly said there are evil people on all sides?
I think what you said was that you wouldn't call the Nazis the bad guys and pick a side against them.
And why do you always have to say "people like you", just because someone has a different opinion to you?

I find your opinions on this impossible to fathom, as do it seems, most of the world. As I would if you refused to fight the Nazis back in 1939.
I suspect you prefer it that way, being able to point out that everyone's missing the points that you know all about.

I'll leave you to your crusade mate.
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And I’ll await my white feather in the post.

Have a good day and don’t forget to salute the flag
 
My smart meter told me that we spent £11.34 on energy yesterday, and its showing over £9 already today. That would equate to over £4k per annum.

We're fortunate enough to be able to pay these amounts, but how are those less fortunate supposed to cope? Much more must be done to help those on the breadline.
 
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My smart meter told me tat we spent £11.34 on energy yesterday, and its showing over £9 already today. That would equate to over £4k per annum

We're fortunate enough to be able to pay these amounts, but how are those less fortunate supposed to cope? Much more must be done to help those on the breadline.
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Agreed. As well as ensuring that those who are more well off are not allowed to claim certain benefits….or at least have them curtailed.
 
Stroller said:
My smart meter told me tat we spent £11.34 on energy yesterday, and its showing over £9 already today. That would equate to over £4k per annum

We're fortunate enough to be able to pay these amounts, but how are those less fortunate supposed to cope? Much more must be done to help those on the breadline.
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Did you go to a new fixed tariff, or have you gambled on variable?
 
Stroller said:
My smart meter told me tat we spent £11.34 on energy yesterday, and its showing over £9 already today. That would equate to over £4k per annum

We're fortunate enough to be able to pay these amounts, but how are those less fortunate supposed to cope? Much more must be done to help those on the breadline.
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Agree.
 
Power prices going up here too
Bloody fixed daily charges
during the summer I spend more on having gas pipes attached to my house than I do on what's in them
 
Staines R's said:
Silly question (I only ask ‘cos I’m going through this at the moment and sound like my dad) but do you find yourself constantly trying to save electric/gas ?
I’m now constantly moaning at the kids to turn lights/games/plugs/stand by stuff off and always turning the heating off/down.
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Hadn't really bothered too much up to now, but definitely doing all that now.
 
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