Fan Behaviour Could Lead to Heavy Punishments

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If there is a rule in place and a punishment is threatened, you can't then complain that a punishment is doled out when the rule is broken. You know the consequences before you commit the act.


Read the act I mentioned. The consequences for your actions on the way to, attending, on the way home from a game of football are unique and specific.
Implement these laws and punishments across society in general, then yes, it is fair to say, people are aware of the consequences for breaking the rules.

If a fight breaks out in a pub, does the landlord get fined? Serve drinks behind closed doors?
Someone runs behind the counter, does the shopkeeper get fined?

ya daft, ya going off on one, I hear you say, bakers and shopkeepers and landlords. Yes, it is bizarre. And so is the football supporters act.
 
Mine are also facts…choice of language is emotive, labelling that young kid a pitch invader is ridiculous, it’s guaranteed to get attention. Wrong choice of words

Do you think the fines for pitch invasions vary based on age? Or maybe height?

Dear FA, the invader was only 3'8", we demand the fine is reduced from £100k to £50k...

Either we care that the club is being fined for these things, or we don't believe they're being fined, or we stop it happening?
 
Do you think the fines for pitch invasions vary based on age? Or maybe height?

Dear FA, the invader was only 3'8", we demand the fine is reduced from £100k to £50k...

Either we care that the club is being fined for these things, or we don't believe they're being fined, or we stop it happening?


To clarify my stance on this. I fully endorse any effort, attempt at education, informing spectators of the consequences, not only to themselves, but to the club. Suggestions on a postcard to the club?

My beef is why mis-behaviour brings sanctions against, not just City, but any football club.
 
Do you think the fines for pitch invasions vary based on age? Or maybe height?

Dear FA, the invader was only 3'8", we demand the fine is reduced from £100k to £50k...

Either we care that the club is being fined for these things, or we don't believe they're being fined, or we stop it happening?

Im staying the response is disproportionate & it’s escalates the problem by labelling a well meaning child an “invader”
 
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Oh well it’s back to fences around the pitch because there are always occasional idiots , probably not regulars , attention seekers , stupid teen agers and younger - plus if you make these things public there are the idiots who do it because they’ve read about it ! When you get fined more than an Eastern European national league for obvious racism it’s out of kilter
 
I’ve seen worse behaviour at the races in Bev by piss-drunk men in suits and women in nice dresses than at City games. Disappointing that the club are pandering to pearl-clutchers and their age-old stereotypes of football fans.

There are some idiots in E1,2&3 though. Chucking bottles at your own fans or on the pitch is acceptable then?
 
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Are the Club being wind up merchants now Dutch?

I am not being flippant or patronising, but how do you get the message across?

I have no idea as to what measures can be taken to prevent somebody, who for reasons known only to himself as a good idea, to throw a bottle on the pitch. Do you?

Two slips and a gully?? Sorry, yes, I said I wasn't going to be flippant.
 
I am not being flippant or patronising, but how do you get the message across?

I have no idea as to what measures can be taken to prevent somebody, who for reasons known only to himself as a good idea, to throw a bottle on the pitch. Do you?

Two slips and a gully?? Sorry, yes, I said I wasn't going to be flippant.

CCTV and banning orders should have it covered.
 
What I’d like to know is what’s happening around the country re other clubs. There must be incidents up and down the leagues. What about those lovable lads at Millwall. The New Den is never closed for anti social stuff or football related . It seems that some clubs would need to have their yobs setting off scud missiles to get closed down.
Do I think it’s ok to run on the pitch or chuck things? No.
Buts let’s get a level playing field here for all clubs.
 
CCTV and banning orders should have it covered.


Retrospective punishment of any kind is, shall we say, a tad late to prevent City having another incident chalked up against them.

A football fan must be told, you are now leaving the arm around the shoulder, please don't do this again, dare I call it namby pamby approach to discipline. Welcome to the world of, when i say no, I really, really, fookin mean it.
 
Football is a family day out. It has moved well on from its toxic culture of the past and that sort of thing has no place in todays society. Now we are in a digital age with automated booking systems surely it would be possible to manipulate tickets to prevent youngsters gathering together, at least for home games. That would likely solve the problem.
 
Everything you listed there is perfectly fine and acceptable, suggesting it would be suppressed to stop pitch invaders is clearly not what's going on here. Equating the two is false equivalence. The fact our owner who is spending a huge amount of money trying to get fans back is having to pay huge fines and has now had to release a plea directly to the fans through the press, and people are dressing it up as the media looking for a story is just mind boggling.

I agree.

We go to football to watch a game, these are professional players who do not need some ****wit kid running onto the pitch while they’re doing their job.

The club are facing actual consequences from this, and only when these consequences are actioned will people ask “what was done about it?”.

Playing it down as “youthful hijinx” or “political correctness gone mad” is mental, if you were on a night out and some kid chucked a bottle at your head, you wouldn’t slap your knee and go “oh you guys”. There’s a legitimate safety concern, coupled with massive fines and a potential stadium closure. Those fines will inevitably translate to higher ticket prices, a reduced wage bill, whatever. Fanilies won’t want to go and take their because, rightly or wrongly, it’ll be seen as more dangerous so we’re losing out on newer fans coming in. That’s the era we live in, bemoan it as much as you like, but will I take my 3 year old daughter to a game where people are chucking coins and bottles at each other? Hell no.

Can we please bury this bullshit argument about “wokeism” and stop using it as an excuse for ****ty behaviour? It’s not “woke” to point out **** behaviour, or to do something to try and stop it. It doesn’t create an atmosphere of anything except potential injury.