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I see Norwich, Burnley and Watford going down, and don't see that changing (sorry Duggie).

Leeds losing would give Everton another additional game in hand, making it three, so Leeds will still be at risk, IF one of the bottom three do escape.

In regards to Everton, the games in hand have currently played in their favour, see last nights result as an example. Also Norwich still have Burnley to play as do Watford, that's just taking points off one another in the bottom three.

Agree with that bottom three.

I think Everton are pretty safe after that win last night. If they'd lost that, given the slide they've been on they would have been in deep ****. But the games in hand they've got should see them pull away from that drop zone.

I've got to say, despite them losing last night. I like the way that Toon have saved themselves in the last few weeks. They looked every bit like relegation fodder, and folk were giving Munse pelters on the daily, but they've turned it around and Munse's WWF wrester gifs have me chuckling away lol
 
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I see Norwich, Burnley and Watford going down, and don't see that changing (sorry Duggie).

Leeds losing would give Everton another additional game in hand, making it three, so Leeds will still be at risk, IF one of the bottom three do escape.

In regards to Everton, the games in hand have currently played in their favour, see last nights result as an example. Also Norwich still have Burnley to play as do Watford, that's just taking points off one another in the bottom three.

I'm really not sure Burnleys run in is definitely the easiest and Watford do pull the odd result out of nowhere. Newcastle have I think the second toughest run of the lot behind Everton, so not safe yet imo anyway.

I think Everton need a another result from West ham and Burnley before they're to be considered safe.
 
Tobes, you know these things, and I seem to have missed you these last few weeks (I've been in the GC pit, tbf, busy doing nothing): this £1.5bn that Chelsea owe Abramovich - why do they not need to pay it back? Is it built into the purchase price? I'm confused because it wasn't spent on infrastructure, so my question is this: what is to stop the Saudis 'lending' Newcastle £100bn, then simply writing it off in ten years or so?

Not being snide, it's a genuine question - asked all over the show, but got no answer. Only you and Astro, IMHO, seem to know these answers, and he seems indisposed. :bandit:

I haven't looked into where the 1.5 billion loan comes from but there are two parts.

Pre 2011, there was no FFP so roman could spend however much he wanted. Even post 2011, they staggered FFP so you could make losses e.g. in 2014 you could have losses of 45m (over a 3 year period i think)

Post 2011 FFP looks at club revenues vs club expenses, so there are things that do not count towards FFP calculations. So in theory, 100 of the club revenues could be offset against things like transfers and player wages whereas Roman can provide money for things like youth development, stadium costs and training grounds don't count towards FFP so he can plough as much money into these as he wants.

In your scenario, the Saudis can lend newcastle 100 billion to spend but they can't spend that loan buying players or using it on player wages.
 
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I genuinely don’t get all the Burnley hate

they are a team with no egos
That all work for their gaffa

Their gaffa is straight talking
They play hard and direct - and ?

they cut their cloth - they didn’t cheat to get out of the championship

They haven’t splashed the cash and contributed to inflated sales as best they can

what’s not to like for me

No one ever bothered about Utd playing the fast break back in the 90s

I think it’s great there is a team that’s ‘old fashioned’ and obviously I want them to win at the weekend

I don't like them because the gaffer talks out of his arse.

He complains about "players diving, playacting" etc and then when his team do it (which they do) he turns a blind eye to it. They act hard and tough and definitely play dirtier and more cynical than most sides (not sure about recently havent watched them).

Yea, it's definitely that ginger whinger
 
Tobes, you know these things, and I seem to have missed you these last few weeks (I've been in the GC pit, tbf, busy doing nothing): this £1.5bn that Chelsea owe Abramovich - why do they not need to pay it back? Is it built into the purchase price? I'm confused because it wasn't spent on infrastructure, so my question is this: what is to stop the Saudis 'lending' Newcastle £100bn, then simply writing it off in ten years or so?

Not being snide, it's a genuine question - asked all over the show, but got no answer. Only you and Astro, IMHO, seem to know these answers, and he seems indisposed. :bandit:
My understanding is that Abramovich converted the directors loans he issued to the football club into equity, so the debt is his mate.
 
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In your scenario, the Saudis can lend newcastle 100 billion to spend but they can't spend that loan buying players or using it on player wages.

They can do what they like, but if the club P&L shows a loss of more than £103m over 3 years, then the club has breached PL rules.

Most don’t seem to understand how player purchases are accounted for in club accounts. The bottom line is, that Newcastle need to increase revenues over the next few years to cover the increased spending, if you spend like a CL club then you need to be in the CL.
 
Didn't realise there was league matches this weekend. Must just be the smaller clubs who aren't in cup.

must be some low level cup as we are involved.
Zenith Data or something like Simod Cup.
 
The best result for us is obvs the home win, the football gods haven’t favoured Leeds so far, but long way to go.