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Shall we settle on 238,000 employed by the SS. Of course not everyone of those would have actually killed any particular Jew, however I would ascertain that every swingle last **** of them is in some way responsible.
Wonder how many were brought to task in the Ukraine for their crimes ?

Even if that is the right figure, since the population of Ukraine was 40 million in 1939, you are looking at just over ...% Correction below. That is a tiny minority by my definition.

Prosecution of thess people was not possible because Ukraine was back under Kremlin control.

Edit - it's 0.5%!
 
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Even if that is the right figure, since the population of Ukraine was 40 million in 1939, you are looking at just over 2%. That is a tiny minority by my definition.

Prosecution of thess people was not possible because Ukraine was back under Kremlin control.

As I pointed out before, that figure is for people who actually came under SS control. If you honestly feel that their weren’t many times that figure who were complicit in the Holocaust, but remained as civilians then I tend to disagree.
When you have government backed, NeoNazi militia formed in Ukraine I can’t see many prosecutions happening soon
 
I did look at Wiki. Says 100,000 collaborators, some under duress or risk to self or family.

4 million Ukrainians were murdered in WW2, of which 1 million were Jews.

There was the occasional psychopathic Ukranian camp guard, but this has to be seen in perspective. As we know, the real villains of this piece were the Germans under Nazi rule.
The so called second holocaust was carried out by Romanian troops in Ukraine Goldie. The extent of Romanian involvement has been largely swept under the carpet but the Axis Army which invaded the USSR was actually only half German, and Romanian forces were the second biggest grouping.
 
As I pointed out before, that figure is for people who actually came under SS control. If you honestly feel that their weren’t many times that figure who were complicit in the Holocaust, but remained as civilians then I tend to disagree.
When you have government backed, NeoNazi militia formed in Ukraine I can’t see many prosecutions happening soon

I corrected my figure, it's 0.5%!

Even if there were as many civilians engaging in atrocities, that is 1 in 100, so you scale is way off Stainsey.
 
The so called second holocaust was carried out by Romanian troops in Ukraine Goldie. The extent of Romanian involvement has been largely swept under the carpet but the Axis Army which invaded the USSR was actually only half German, and Romanian forces were the second biggest grouping.

I can believe that, Cologne. Romania was a Nazi ally, whereas Ukraine was a Nazi target.
 
Oh come on Ellers, stop behaving like a child. I totally called it wrong too pal. Whether through hope, disbelief or a total lack of knowledge. Probably all 3 to be fair.
I am not the one who had a problem with calling it wrong. I stated i was wrong when he went in. Whats your point Bob? Are you here to join the other two in goading me?
FYI this all started because of a certain poster who decided to goad me over something that was nothing about him or anyone on this board. I moved on but kept getting goaded until he was called out by other posters. Then as per usual the minions start it off all over again. And i get a stupid post like this.
 
I am not the one who had a problem with calling it wrong. I stated i was wrong when he went in. Whats your point Bob? Are you here to join the other two in goading me?
FYI this all started because of a certain poster who decided to goad me over something that was nothing about him or anyone on this board. I moved on but kept getting goaded until he was called out by other posters. Then as per usual the minions start it off all over again. And i get a stupid post like this.

Oh shut up pussy boy…..go running to the mods if you want or maybe just put me on ignore. You don’t like your own medicine so man up and take it.
You did the exact same thing to Stroller for months…so you really ain’t a ****in’ innocent
 
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Oh shut up pussy boy…..go running to the mods if you want or maybe just put me on ignore. You don’t like your own medicine so man up and take it.
You did the exact same thing to Stroller for months…so you really ain’t a ****in’ innocent
As i said you know how do bore people.
 
What figure makes it an issue Goldie ?
Are we talking dead Jews or Ukrainian collaborators?

The point is that while there was a miniscule number of antisemitic collaborators in Ukraine that did a lot of damage and took innocent Jewish lives, the massive majority of Ukrainians were victims not perpetrators in WW2
 
I am not the one who had a problem with calling it wrong. I stated i was wrong when he went in. Whats your point Bob? Are you here to join the other two in goading me?
FYI this all started because of a certain poster who decided to goad me over something that was nothing about him or anyone on this board. I moved on but kept getting goaded until he was called out by other posters. Then as per usual the minions start it off all over again. And i get a stupid post like this.
No, all this started because you called certain people 'internet generals' and belittled their comments. You reap what you sow mate.
 
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Oh come on Ellers, stop behaving like a child. I totally called it wrong too pal. Whether through hope, disbelief or a total lack of knowledge. Probably all 3 to be fair.
However just to add... i still respect your football input. :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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