Maybe he just knows what he’s doing given he has about half a century of experience unlike his **** **** nonce predecessor.
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Maybe he just knows what he’s doing given he has about half a century of experience unlike his **** **** nonce predecessor.
Tough talking means **** all now Putin has shown his hand. Minimum should be extreme sanctions on Russia - the whole country. Yes, it'll affect the lives of it's normal, every day citizens, but this should help topple Putin.
Intervention by NATO will lead to massive bloodshed, and I don't think the leaders in the West, or the public, have the stomach for war.
For me it was Trump who agreed the pullout of Afgjanistan without providing any protection for what was inevitably going to happen after. He probably had US opinion behind that action and Biden still does. Probably the same regarding the Ukraine and the rest of Europe come to that if sanctions aren't enough, and I'm far from sure they are.
Hopefully someone will see he is being a tw@t and get rid.. however he is quite popular with some.
Mmm.....we won't put boots on the ground in Ukraine.
Putin knows this.
Western allies shooting at Russian forces is a very, very dangerous scenario.
We'll help covertly.
We'll openly supply Ukraine with weapons etc.
We'll help to beef up the borders with Ukraine.
If Putin instigates war with NATO countries I'll be amazed and proved wrong about him being insane.
You better explain that because all the decent US generals and military pundits think differently.
Just been talking to my 22 year old daughter who was saying she hasn’t experienced anything like this before. And on reflection I don’t think the 61 year old me has either. Far too young to be aware of the Cuban missile crisis, but even that wasn’t an invasion of a European country by another one, as opposed to civil war in the break up of Yugoslavia etc, which never had the broader potential consequences of this action.
I suppose I can now vaguely understand how my grandparents would have felt in the late 1930s - helpless, incredulous, confused and wishing that common sense would intervene.
I suppose I can now vaguely understand how my grandparents would have felt in the late 1930s - helpless, incredulous, confused and wishing that common sense would intervene.
I spent my early years in the army preparing for war with the Russians, on the inner German border, but never really thought it would happen - especially after Glasnost and the fall of the Berlin Wall.
It's all very 1980s and exceptionally depressing.
Yep. My youngest asked me yesterday about it and I said pretty much the same as you have here.
I hope to **** I'm right about Putin not being insane.
My biggest worry is that eventually he'll feel so backed into a corner (rightly) that his pride and desire for power won't stop him taking on the West.
The only way he could not lose that one would be to go nuclear.
All getting a bit scary.
I had a similar conversation with my daughter, who asked me if we were going to go to war with Russia. I told her 'Of course not', but I'm genuinely extremely concerned, not to say scared, about how this situation might develop.
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