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I must say, I don't understand why money is mixed up in the legal system. It seems absolutely bizarre to me. It makes no sense.

Would those other guys just go to jail as they can't raid their mum's handbag for 12m?

Where is the justice in amy of that?

This has been a civil case, where the burden of proof required is less.
 
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I would always like to think of myself as patriotic and I love my country and my native NE.

I also appreciate what Liz has done over the past 70 years.

However once she has 'popped her clogs' , so to speak, the idea of idiot 'big-ears' taking over is frankly ridiculous, his sister Anne is the only one with any gumption. Or skip a generation and let William and Kate get on with it.

So personally the whole monarchy, house of lords etc needs a re-think, although having an honorary President may have some problems.

Met investigating cash-for-honours claims linked to Prince’s Foundation
Metropolitan police have launched investigation into allegations linked to Prince Charles charity

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Prince Charles, who established the Prince’s Foundation charity. Photograph: Reuters



The Metropolitan police have launched an investigation into cash-for-honours allegations linked to the Prince of Wales’s charity the Prince’s Foundation.

Scotland Yard said in a statement: “The Metropolitan police service has launched an investigation into allegations of offences under the Honours (Prevention of Abuses) Act 1925.



“The decision follows an assessment of a September 2021 letter. This related to media reporting alleging offers of help were made to secure honours and citizenship for a Saudi national.

“The Special Enquiry Team has conducted the assessment process which has included contacting those believed to hold relevant information.

“Officers liaised with the Prince’s Foundation about the findings of an independent investigation into fundraising practices. The foundation provided a number of relevant documents
 
The answer to your question is, --- NO, they would NOT go to Jail.

Firstly, this is a case under the American System and I'm no expert on that.

HOWEVER,

It's not a criminal case.
I'ts a civil case where one side is seeking damages.
So, it is entirely about money.

It would be pointless for the lady to go after anyone who would be unable to pay.
More to the point, I suspect that no US Lawyer would take such a case on because they would want to get paid as well.

Yeah, all the above is vomit inducing.
 
I went to Versailles. I didn't go for the fifteen Louis'.

Plenty of country without royals do just fine in bringing in tourism cash.


The fact is, the royals are a massive tourist attraction in our country.

What you get up to in Versailles is completely irrelevant.
 
The fact is, the royals are a massive tourist attraction in our country.

What you get up to in Versailles is completely irrelevant.

No it's directly relevant in that I went out my way to see a palace that was formerly home to a royal dynasty.

I would have thought the relevance was blindingly obvious.

I don't buy the people come to see the royals spiel. It always gets trotted out in such conversations. Seems people have been saying it for decades (Sex Pistols).

I don't know where it comes from. I don't think I have ever met a tourist who came to Britain because of the royals.
 
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No it's directly relevant in that I went out my way to see a palace that was formerly home to a royal dynasty.

I would have thought the relevance was blindingly obvious.

I don't buy the people come to see the royals spiel. It always gets trotted out in such conversations. Seems people have been saying it for decades (Sex Pistols).

I don't know where it comes from. I don't think I have ever met a tourist who came to Britain because of the royals.
Hmm. I'm pretty certain that a lot are attracted by the presence of a very visible, high profile, still extant, Royal family though (especially in comparison to a lot of the surviving European Royal families which are very low-key), not to mention the pomp and ceremony surrounding them. To some people there is a very real difference to visiting a palace where the Queen lives to visiting a palace where a Queen (or King) lived. If anyone was to say that the royal family are an anachronism, I'd agree, but that's what makes them interesting for people and the UK unique.
 
No it's directly relevant in that I went out my way to see a palace that was formerly home to a royal dynasty.

I would have thought the relevance was blindingly obvious.

I don't buy the people come to see the royals spiel. It always gets trotted out in such conversations. Seems people have been saying it for decades (Sex Pistols).

I don't know where it comes from. I don't think I have ever met a tourist who came to Britain because of the royals.

Theg don't comectk see the Royals, which us just as well as they never do.

But huge amounts really do come to see places and buildings attached to the monarchy and it's history.
Whether or not they would still come if they were all hoyed out and given a flat in Lambeth Borough each is not known of course
 
No it's directly relevant in that I went out my way to see a palace that was formerly home to a royal dynasty.

I would have thought the relevance was blindingly obvious.

I don't buy the people come to see the royals spiel. It always gets trotted out in such conversations. Seems people have been saying it for decades (Sex Pistols).

I don't know where it comes from. I don't think I have ever met a tourist who came to Britain because of the royals.

3-4 million people visit royal residences annually, that’s facts for you.

those 3-4 million people will also stay at hotels, eat in restaurants, use taxis etc.

Buckingham palace is one of the biggest tourist attractions in the world.
 
3-4 million people visit royal residences annually, that’s facts for you.

those 3-4 million people will also stay at hotels, eat in restaurants, use taxis etc.

Buckingham palace is one of the biggest tourist attractions in the world.

"10 million visitors

With nearly 10 million visitors every year, Versailles is one of the most visited historic sites in the world"

Sounds like we ought to storm a prison, chop the royals heads off, write a big novel/opera about the ordeal and the tourism will triple.
 
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I just think that's an absolute breakdown of the criminal justice system.

Either you're guilty or you're not. Either you ought to be properly punished or not.

Buying your way out of trouble just feels insane.

Civil cases do not normally have a jury, though I think some matters do require one. Assault and so on, but you'd need more knowledge than I have for that.

Those that are settled out of court are often because the claimant is expected to win. That's here mind, I don't know about in the States, where really the Law should be avoided at almost all cost .

They go to a civil court because there is not sufficient proof beyond all reasonable doubt and all that in a criminal court. One can follow the other.

Criminal guilt may mean a long prison term. Guilt in a civil case cannot.
 
"10 million visitors

With nearly 10 million visitors every year, Versailles is one of the most visited historic sites in the world"

Sounds like we ought to storm a prison, chop the royals heads off, write a big novel/opera about the ordeal and the tourism will triple.
Is Versailles open year round though? I'd imagine so. As a functioning Royal residence, Buckingham Palace is only open to the public for a short spell each summer.
 
Hmm. I'm pretty certain that a lot are attracted by the presence of a very visible, high profile, still extant, Royal family though (especially in comparison to a lot of the surviving European Royal families which are very low-key), not to mention the pomp and ceremony surrounding them. To some people there is a very real difference to visiting a palace where the Queen lives to visiting a palace where a Queen (or King) lived. If anyone was to say that the royal family are an anachronism, I'd agree, but that's what makes them interesting for people and the UK unique.

Or they really are past their sell by date.

FFS we still have a 2nd chamber with heredity members..., and appointees by the ruling party on the commons...

We may or may not be the mother of parliaments (Ancient Greeks might argue the point), but one thing is sure we have not modernised for centuries, party cos the deadening effect of the 'Royals"