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The Norton Cat said:
Been part of the City Group. Most recently at Parma

https://www.mancity.com/features/enzo-maresca/

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ball-news/man-city-u23s-enzo-maresca-20545303
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Im out
Despite a team including former international stars such as Gianluigi Buffon and Franco Vázquez, Maresca failed in leading Parma into the promotion spots, being eventually dismissed on 23 November 2021 with the Gialloblu only three points above the relegation playoff zone.[46]
 
If they name someone objectively better than keane in time for Wimbledon, fine. All good.

If not. This is indeed a kick in the balls.
 
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Well if as @Prehab26 says, that Keane has turned us down despite the terms being okay, because of Speakman - then that means Speakman has to go for me.

Unless of course KLD likes Speakman and trusts him and backs him long term. If KLD has any doubts on Speakman then this is enough for me to think he needs to go. ASAP

(Not quoting prehab as those posts were broken)
 
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TopCat_SMB said:
I blame myself for getting excited. I was giddy as hell on Friday - Defoe was back, Keane on his way and we were going to smash Doncaster

****ing sick right now. Every time we are at our lowest ebb we find a way to sink ****ing lower
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Same Wasn’t convinced to start with but was like a little kid last Friday. My worry now is their a plan B. The names mentioned are pretty uninspiring. But let’s see they might pull a rabbit out of the hat
 
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Prehab26 said:
I know why. I have been PMint someone on here about it. Keane have these jokers nearly 2 weeks of his time. Suitable terms but speakman has to be the all mighty.

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Feel free to share that intel mate (if you want)
 
SAFC2403 said:
well if its not Keane I'd be giving it to Warnock - hes got plenty of promotions on his CV - he can organise a defence as well. Give it him until the end of the season and then spend the time between now and then to find someone who will take us where we need to go.

Taking this long to offer someone a job FFS - our season has disintegrated before our eyes.
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Don't want to see warnocks dinosaur football
 
sheepman said:
Same Wasn’t convinced to start with but was like a little kid last Friday. My worry now is their a plan B. The names mentioned are pretty uninspiring. But let’s see they might pull a rabbit out of the hat
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Problem is that McCann or Neil or whoever know that Keane was first choice. The fans know, the players know, every ****er knows. Whoever the new man is will be starting from absolute zero with us all. This feels like another Parkinson moment
 
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It would be with a heavy heart I would go far McCann now....He's got a rank average side out of this league before, but he has a hell of job to win over our fans
 
I never wanted Keane and quite frankly think the fawning over someone who nobody has wanted as manager for 11 years is baffling.

Nonetheless, to take 10 days to get to this point is equally as baffling.

However it's going to be practically impossible for speakman to fully explain what's happened without completely undermining whoever does get it.
Mu guess has always been, keane wants to break the model with full control & the salary package is just too high.
 
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Southern A said:
I’m offering some balance mate.

Keane knew we wanted him and took 8 days to turn us down.

The club should have got him wrapped up.

He should have turned us down sooner.

No matter what way you look at it, and no matter how desperate we are to blame Speakman (and believe me I can’t stand him), Keane has to take some of the blame here.

And frankly if he doesn’t want to manage us - **** him.
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Southern A said:
I’m offering some balance mate.

Keane knew we wanted him and took 8 days to turn us down.

The club should have got him wrapped up.

He should have turned us down sooner.

No matter what way you look at it, and no matter how desperate we are to blame Speakman (and believe me I can’t stand him), Keane has to take some of the blame here.

And frankly if he doesn’t want to manage us - **** him.
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Yep. But we don't know what has happened at all. Maybe Keane said, after all this time, that he didn't want the job. Maybe Speakman kept insisting on conditions he knew Keane would never accept, I doubt we'll ever know, though if any reports are conflicting, I'd be believing Keane who has nothing to lose or hide, over Speakman for whom the opposite is true.

We'll see. But my faith in Speakman was never great, and this has been an absolutely epic **** up.

As I, and no doubt others said, it's always easier to sack a manager than hire a better one. And I have very little faith at all in the bloke who is supposed to be doing that job. He is obviously completely un- prepared for this .
 
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Southern A said:
Pass me the bastard saw. All that time with Keane wanting to come and it falls through during the night.

Piss off.
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I’m holding off getting too annoyed at Speakman until we find out why

Frankly if Keane is the one who has changed his mind last night then **** him.

We are Sunderland supporters - not Keane supporters. If he doesn’t want to manage us, for whatever reason - **** him.[/QUOTE]
This ^ I was happy with Keane but some were getting carried away about him. No doubt speakman will be getting the blame without anyone actually knowing the facts of what's happened
 
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To me it sounds like Speakmann has far too much sway. A power struggle from within has basically cost us and chance of promotion. They really do need to get this appointment right or it will knock us back another 18 months.
 
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I’ve tried to add some balance. I don’t like Speakman. I think it’s very likely this has been caused my his incompetence.

I’m saying I think he MIGHT not be entirely to blame. We don’t even have one side of this story yet, let alone both.

Either way, it seems pretty clear to me from fan opinion that his position is absolutely untenable. Whether this is entirely his fault or just slightly his fault - he’s done. He has no credibility with fans, media or the industry.
 
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