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I suppose im just old fashioned but the thought of non football men like speakman heading up recruitment leaves me cold.
As Brian clough once said about directors, how are they meant to ascertain if you know what you’re doing when they know bugger all themselves!
How on earth is Speakman a non-football man? He's been coaching since he was 19 and holds the UEFA Pro Licence.
 
I suppose im just old fashioned but the thought of non football men like speakman heading up recruitment leaves me cold.
As Brian clough once said about directors, how are they meant to ascertain if you know what you’re doing when they know bugger all themselves!
How's Speakman a "Non Football man"
Edit just seen your post @The Norton Cat
 
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How on earth is Speakman a non-football man? He's been coaching since he was 19 and holds the UEFA Pro Licence.
Big deal! Who has he played for? What are his credentials for finding quality talent?
Yes we know mourinho, tuchel etc but the vast majority of successful football people have played at a decent enough level.
 
Mate I’ve been voicing my dissatisfaction with KLD for god few months now and all I’ve been met with is abuse, I’ve had posts and threads deleted from this very forum for voicing those opinions.
I keep hearing like you’re saying about dragging us into 21st century, a new recruitment model which has brought in all these talented players!
Sorry but I just don’t see it, how are we any further forward than we were 12 months ago? A lot of these lads won’t even be here next season so it’s going to be yet another rebuild.
A lot more questions need to be asked if the nee regime on my opinion.
That's because you think differently to the majority. It doesn't go well for the folk on here who voice different opinions.

Have you been accused of having a different opinion just to wind people up? That'll be coming your way, too.
 
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Big deal! Who has he played for? What are his credentials for finding quality talent?
Yes we know mourinho, tuchel etc but the vast majority of successful football people have played at a decent enough level.
Do you not think that might be because of the jobs for the boys scenario? In the not so distance past, retired footballers were given jobs in football because they didn't have the skills to go in to anything else when they retired. You also have the scenario we have with Keane and which you yourself have bought into- giving people jobs because they're well known names- "I want this fella cos I've never heard of the other fella".
Give people who haven't played professionally a chance in coaching and they'll show they're as good, if not better, than those that have played professionally. I know plenty of managers in non-league who played professionally but aren't as successful at managing as blokes who never played anywhere near that level.
Plus, the Pro Licence is hard to get. You need to display significant competence to get it.
 
That's because you think differently to the majority. It doesn't go well for the folk on here who voice different opinions.

Have you been accused of having a different opinion just to wind people up? That'll be coming your way, too.
Yep had all that.
After Pompey win I was still adamant Johnson wasn’t man for job, got banned from thread then he’s sacked one game later!
Couldn’t make it up!
 
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Yep had all that.
After Pompey win I was still adamant Johnson wasn’t man for job, got banned from thread then he’s sacked one game later!
Couldn’t make it up!
<laugh>

Just be a happy clapper, mate. Agree with everything that folk say, always be ridiculously positive and you'll be alright on here :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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Big deal! Who has he played for? What are his credentials for finding quality talent?
Yes we know mourinho, tuchel etc but the vast majority of successful football people have played at a decent enough level.

I get where you're coming from but its a poor argument to hit Speakman with.
For me doesn't matter where he's come from its what he's done and doing that counts
He's got an excellent coaching and development record
Currently I think he's doing OK for you obviously the juries still out. Only time will tell.

Oh and by the way

Arsene Wenger
Gerard Houlier
Mourinho
Avaram Grant
Current man U manager Ralf Ragnick
Andre Villas- Boas
Carlos Alberto Parriera - Actually won the world Cup (But I suppose anyone can manage Brazil)
Maurizio Sari
Brendan Rodgers
Tuchel

Sorry bit of time on my hands today couldn't resist
 
I get where you're coming from but its a poor argument to hit Speakman with.
For me doesn't matter where he's come from its what he's done and doing that counts
He's got an excellent coaching and development record
Currently I think he's doing OK for you obviously the juries still out. Only time will tell.

Oh and by the way

Arsene Wenger
Gerard Houlier
Mourinho
Avaram Grant
Current man U manager Ralf Ragnick
Andre Villas- Boas
Carlos Alberto Parriera - Actually won the world Cup (But I suppose anyone can manage Brazil)
Maurizio Sari
Brendan Rodgers
Tuchel

Sorry bit of time on my hands today couldn't resist
There's loads of them. Including very notable ones like Arrigo Sacchi and Bill Struth who won 30 trophies in 34 years at Rangers, when Scottish football wasn't as much of a two horse race.
 
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I think you will find there is a lot of lads on here with very rose tinted glasses, I mean there was one daft twat on here who predicted 7-1 to Sunderland on Saturday the tosser.<ok>
We already know you're a tosser. You didn't have to go and prove it <laugh>

Nothing wrong with rose tinted glasses but it's not right when people are aliented for not going along with them <ok>
 
I get where you're coming from but its a poor argument to hit Speakman with.
For me doesn't matter where he's come from its what he's done and doing that counts
He's got an excellent coaching and development record
Currently I think he's doing OK for you obviously the juries still out. Only time will tell.

Oh and by the way

Arsene Wenger
Gerard Houlier
Mourinho
Avaram Grant
Current man U manager Ralf Ragnick
Andre Villas- Boas
Carlos Alberto Parriera - Actually won the world Cup (But I suppose anyone can manage Brazil)
Maurizio Sari
Brendan Rodgers
Tuchel

Sorry bit of time on my hands today couldn't resist
Of course there are exceptions but you do realise I could find 100x more who had playing careers as well.
Also likes of wenger and ragnick did play professionally.
I fully accept I may be out of touch and if so time will tell I suppose but I the type of jargon I heard from Johnson, Speakman and now this Dodds character just makes my toes curl.
Football is still a simple game, get good players with good attitudes playing for you and you’ve got a chance.
 
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Of course there are exceptions but you do realise I could find 100x more who had playing careers as well.
Also likes of wenger and ragnick did play professionally.
I fully accept I may be out of touch and if so time will tell I suppose but I the type of jargon I heard from Johnson, Speakman and now this Dodds character just makes my toes curl.
Football is still a simple game, get good players with good attitudes playing for you and you’ve got a chance.
I believe Wenger and Rangnick were never more than semi-professional. Although they both played for clubs that have been fully professional they either played for them when they were much further down the football pyramid in their particular countries or weren't full professionals. I could be wrong but I think Wenger may have been signed only on semi-pro terms at RC Strasbourg as he was primarily brought in to coach the youth sides.
The bit in bold is what I've been saying on here for years, but people either want to ascribe almost magical powers to managers or completely deny that managers do anything. Never the middle point where the truth lies.
 
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I believe Wenger and Rangnick were never more than semi-professional. Although they both played for clubs that have been fully professional they either played for them when they were much further down the football pyramid in their particular countries or weren't full professionals. I could be wrong but I think Wenger may have been signed only on semi-pro terms at RC Strasbourg as he was primarily brought in to coach the youth sides.
The bit in bold is what I've been saying on here for years, but people either want to ascribe almost magical powers to managers or completely deny that managers do anything. Never the middle point where the truth lies.
That’s why it’s important for me that managers are in charge of recruitment. They will ultimately live or die by the players at their disposal. I certainly wouldn’t want my job resting on the decisions of others.
 
My only concern with the new setup is that although we all agree a proper long term plan is needed and they have done some fantastic work on that front in my opinion, the short term is not adequately catered for.
 
My only concern with the new setup is that although we all agree a proper long term plan is needed and they have done some fantastic work on that front in my opinion, the short term is not adequately catered for.
Genuine question what great work have they done for the long term?
 
I think bringing the recruitment into the modern age will pay dividends in longer term and we will finally start selling players for more than we pay for them. Contrast that to Shorts time where only one player was sold for more than we paid. See Brentford.

My original point is that none of that helps now if Trai Hume turns out to be worth £5m in 3 year.
(And Doyle, Dajaku, Cirkin, Neil, Hoffman etc were not fit for purpose for THIS season if automatic was truly the aim)
 
I think bringing the recruitment into the modern age will pay dividends in longer term and we will finally start selling players for more than we pay for them. Contrast that to Shorts time where only one player was sold for more than we paid. See Brentford.

My original point is that none of that helps now if Trai Hume turns out to be worth £5m in 3 year.
(And Doyle, Dajaku, Cirkin, Neil, Hoffman etc were not fit for purpose for THIS season if automatic was truly the aim)
The thing is other than Stewart who have we brought in who’s actually ours that we could flog for a profit at this minute?
It’s all very well saying the model is the right one (although I’m not convinced) but it’s no good if those implementing aren’t doing their job properly.
 
That’s why it’s important for me that managers are in charge of recruitment. They will ultimately live or die by the players at their disposal. I certainly wouldn’t want my job resting on the decisions of others.
I think if you have a manager then yes, it is important that they do have the final say in recruitment. If you've got a Director of Football or Head of Recruitment model like ours, then the only crucial thing is that the Head Coach can coach. I don't see that it matters that much who brings the players in as long as everyone is happy with the arrangement and the players that are brought in are good players.
 
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Nice to see people finally calling it for what it is.
New owner is getting away with murder and we have fans fawning over him.

a win on saturday would have bought the club some time but losing to the bottom club, at home, after they were also stuffed in the previous game was too much for the fans.

i firmly still believe in the long term goal as i believe it will only benefit the club in the long term, we have tried the 'rich owner spending money' approach and also the 'quick fix' approach and look where we are.

that said, the club should be in a better place by now, the fans have done as much as they can do in that showing of support but they all have a breaking point and my fear is that we are sailing very close to that point and it could take many years to get them back, if ever...the new regime need to use this opportunity to stamp their name into the clubs history and make 'that' appointment that will keep the fans onside and stop this p1ssing about, even a statement that could put them at ease but this 'silent treatment' with important news is really getting stretched now.
 
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