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PleaseNotPoll said:
Perhaps such a person may have become frustrated at previous police inaction?
Alternatively, it could be because they're quite young and don't understand the legal system.

Edit: Or this:
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Sounds like she may be bullshitting her dad here, to me.
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And it could be because he's guilty by association whatever happens. People have drawn their own conclusions before an investigation has even started, as it's evident from the comments here. How many others elsewhere?
So the damage is done - and it was very easily done.
There was a report in the MEN recently of a woman who had made countless complaints of staliking by her ex-partner. All the harassing messages came from his social media accounts - or so it seemed, until the police bothered to investigate on both sides. It then became apparent that she had set up these accounts using her email address to frame him. She got 10 months for perverting the course of justice.
I'm not saying this is the case here, but pointing out that it's easy to create an impression of something if you have a mind to do so. Posting allegations on social media for the world to see is an easy way to damage the repuation of a high profile person, irrespective of the truth of the allegations.
Why not have the dignity and decency to go to the police with the allegations first rather than court publicity?
 
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littleDinosaurLuke said:
And it could be because he's guilty by association whatever happens. People have drawn their own conclusions before an investigation has even started, as it's evident from the comments here. How many others elsewhere?
So the damage is done - and it was very easily done.
There was a report in the MEN recently of a woman who had made countless complaints of staliking by her ex-partner. All the harassing messages came from his social media accounts - or so it seemed, until the police bothered to investigate on both sides. It then became apparent that she had set up these accounts using her email address to frame him. She got 10 months for perverting the course of justice.
I'm not saying this is the case here, but pointing out that it's easy to create an impression of something if you have a mind to do so. Posting allegations on social media for the world to see is an easy way to damage the repuation of a high profile person, irrespective of the truth of the allegations.
Why not have the dignity and decency to go to the police with the allegations first rather than court publicity?
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Guilt by association is when someone else does something wrong and you're their friend/relative/etc.
This is just assuming guilt from limited information.

I'd suggest that he should have the dignity and decency not to rape and assault his girlfriend.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Guilt by association is when someone else does something wrong and you're their friend/relative/etc.
This is just assuming guilt from limited information.

I'd suggest that he should have the dignity and decency not to rape and assault his girlfriend.
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Which brings the argument full circle because you assume his guilt based on whatever is on social media!
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
Which brings the argument full circle because you assume his guilt based on whatever is on social media!
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I'm assuming his guilt based upon the audio of him raping someone.
If it turns out that it's fake/not him/some weird roleplaying ****, then I'll change my mind.
 
BrunelGunner said:
I really don’t get this.

Yes, there has to be due process - but there are quite literal quotes and recordings of her repeatedly telling him he doesn’t want to have sex with her and him repeatedly saying “I don’t care, I’m gonna **** you” and also saying “I don’t give a **** what you want”.

How much more obvious can a lack of consent be?
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Let's ask Naby Keita

...as long as KloppSucker is fine with that, given his apparent issue with people bringing up rape charges when they're specific to his team's players (but nobody else's)
 
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littleDinosaurLuke said:
Which brings the argument full circle because you assume his guilt based on whatever is on social media!
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In order to be punished by the state for a crime, he is required to be proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. For everything else including employment, comments on social media etc everyone is entitled to come to an opinion on any evidence they find. If he didn't do it he will be entitled to damages from anyone who caused him a loss by misunderstanding the evidence. Man United have a duty of care to other people in their employment and those he will meet in the course of his job. It would be outrageous if they didn't suspend him. If she has fabricated the whole thing then she will be the one punished and deservedly so. If she didn't I hope she sues everyone on social media who suggested she did.
 
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littleDinosaurLuke said:
Assumptions. Which is my point.
I wouldn't want anyone to make assumptions of this kind about me - and nor would you.
I don't know what he's done - and I wouldn't look to social media to find out.
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People wouldn't have the same evidence to make assumptions like this about me.
I can only assume that you haven't looked or listened to any of it. Is that the case?
 
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vimhawk said:
I'm with LDL on this. There has to be due process. The trouble with "obvious evidence" is that you can't draw the line between that and stuff that isn't quite as damming, and then where do you stop?.
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Accusations have been made.
They are quite nasty, so the judiciary will now have to act.

Beyond that, IMHO the time for the details is in a court case.
 
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Sucky said:
Dunno about you mate but none of those things even come close to raping someone in my book.

Bit fuking odd that you'd even Consider that to be on or even near the same level tbh.

And cheap af to use it as a stick to hit lfc with ffs.
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Where did I say those things are comparable to rape or at the same level?, anybody with half a brain would realize that is a given. I was just merely highlighting the double standards and general mentality of your average Pool fan.
 
Dier Hard said:
Newcastle’s new boy showing everyone he rejected Arsenal, lol.
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Either that or we weren't willing to cough up enough for him. Based on our transfer (in)activity, wouldn't surprise me if that were the case.
 
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