Off Topic Coronavirus
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Andrew Neil
An intensive care doctor says every critically ill coronavirus-infected patient currently being treated at his hospital is unvaccinated. Dr David Hepburn said there are now no vaccinated Covid patients in critical care at Grange University Hospital in Cwmbran, South Wales.
An intensive care doctor says every critically ill coronavirus-infected patient currently being treated at his hospital is unvaccinated. Dr David Hepburn said there are now no vaccinated Covid patients in critical care at Grange University Hospital in Cwmbran, South Wales.
Mrs Steels was pinged last night. She'd been out with her sister and neices at the weekend for a walk, and my neice (10y.o) has now tested positive. Wife has no symptoms, but as an NHS worker, she needs to be PCRd - went through the NHS priority booking, had a slot booked within 20 minutes a couple of miles away and was done within half an hour of being pinged - result expected today.
Cases dropping off up here, and they are expecting a lot of the restrictions to be lifted on Monday
Cases dropping off up here, and they are expecting a lot of the restrictions to be lifted on Monday
How's Mrs Steels doing with the long covid nowadays Steels? Much better I hope?
364K in France yesterday... you cant blame the government for that Beth... or maybe you can?
About 95% to where she was prior to Covid, it's mainly the pain in all her joints, every second of every day, and they've no idea if it will ever get better
It’s people like your wife that the test and trace system should be used for, those who care for the vulnerable.
Unfortunately we just can’t say whether cases are actually dropping off because the self testing/testing regime has collapsed. There is a dire shortage of LFTs so even the small numbers officially reporting the results of those tests will drop off and PCR tests are not quickly available for most of the population and those who test positive on LFT but have no symptoms are not now eligible for a PCR. The case numbers are dropping because of system failure and system redesign. The only number worth tracking is hospital admissions, which do, thankfully, seem to be levelling off in most parts of the country.
PCR result through, negative, in less than 16 hours!
So when I said I thought Coronavirus was made In a lab by the Chinese I was told on here by the experts that was impossible…
Well…
Breaking on SKY Coronavirus news latest: Scientists thought it was 'likely' COVID came from lab.
I think some maybe eating humble pie from their test tubes?
Well…
Breaking on SKY Coronavirus news latest: Scientists thought it was 'likely' COVID came from lab.
I think some maybe eating humble pie from their test tubes?
Whats your point Ellers.
I just said I was disgusted at everything. I am not blaming the government for several things in that list Djovich and at least some of the cost of living problems for example...so your point is.
I think I am allowed to just say I am fed up/disgusted at a lot of things aren't I?
( I am also disgusted at the dog owner outside my house, who let their dog do stuff, prince andrew, and an ex work mate of mine who bad mouthed our exboss too, and those 3 things have been added to the list today)
Please send link Ellers, my most recent link is from late October. There was a big thing in November in the scientific press discussing all the scenarios. And at that point they could not decide what. It is not artificially made though, that is plain from its genetic blueprint.
So from Sky News in October
A report says that, while some theories are plausible, there is not yet enough evidence to make a firm conclusion.
Saturday 30 October 2021 08:46, UK
US spy agencies have admitted that the true origins of COVID-19 may never be known.
The Office of the US Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) said on Friday that theories involving transmission from animals or a leak from a lab were plausible.
However, the office added that analysts could not agree which was more likely or if any firm conclusion could be made at all.
They did, however, dismiss suggestions that the virus originated as a bioweapon, saying backers of this theory "do not have direct access to the Wuhan Institute of Virology".
The office also said that those behind this theory have been accused of spreading disinformation.
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eople wearing face masks on a street in WuhanSome US spy agencies supported the theory that the virus originated in nature but there has been little evidence for this in recent months.
That at least is good news Steels...How is the long Covid though, is it still persisting?
Please send link Ellers, my most recent link is from late October. There was a big thing in November in the scientific press discussing all the scenarios. And at that point they could not decide what. It is not artificially made though, that is plain from its genetic blueprint.
So from Sky News in October
A report says that, while some theories are plausible, there is not yet enough evidence to make a firm conclusion.
Saturday 30 October 2021 08:46, UK
US spy agencies have admitted that the true origins of COVID-19 may never be known.
The Office of the US Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) said on Friday that theories involving transmission from animals or a leak from a lab were plausible.
However, the office added that analysts could not agree which was more likely or if any firm conclusion could be made at all.
They did, however, dismiss suggestions that the virus originated as a bioweapon, saying backers of this theory "do not have direct access to the Wuhan Institute of Virology".
The office also said that those behind this theory have been accused of spreading disinformation.
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Some US spy agencies supported the theory that the virus originated in nature but there has been little evidence for this in recent months.
mmm that’s interesting. Got a breaking news from Sky on my phone went to sky news site where I cut and past that but didn’t add the address and now like the Wuhan files it’s disappeared. I shall investigate.
Here is the same story from the Torygraph.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...d-covid-leaked-wuhan-lab-feared-debate-could/
I found it. They merged it with another story.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-latest-news-covid-omicron-live-12507015
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-latest-news-covid-omicron-live-12507015
This story popped up on my phone too. Im in no doubt thatvthis virus was lab made. I dont have any evidence to back that but i firmly believe it.
That the state of play that I think we are at too. We cannot get anywhere because China wont really help us
There are 4/5 ways it started.
1. Completely naturally, a species jump...this does happen all the time. Bird flu for example, brought in by migrating birds, it mutates and all of a sudden it can infect humans. This is the basis of the wet market theory, but even that China has not really let people in to chase the theory
2. Artificial weaponized virus. This is unlikely as there is no trace in the early samples of artificial (human) interference
The Wuhan lab involvement
3a.... They were investigating the virus which had been brought in from a patient from somewhere remote and it accidentally escaped
3b...They were investigating the virus by deliberately putting in mammals/primates (putting environmental pressure on it to "evolve") and it did, and transmitted accidentally (possibly assymptomatically) to a worker, who carried it outside
3c... 3a/3b but it was deliberately spread to the population to see what it would do
China are not even allowing access to chase the first idea, so I cannot see how we will ever know, unless there is a whistle blower. The asymptomatic transmission, has always been the clever trick with this virus. It can get quite far and infect a lot of people if over half of them never knew the were ill. Different with Ebola for example, everyone starts leaking blood from every orifice and you don't need trace and track to tell you to stay at home
Beth I would trust you and many others in the profession to be honest about your work. Sadly like many others I do not the Chinese. They have destroyed nearly all the evidence and hampered the WHO investigation. Anyone connected or spoke out died of COVID and was cremated 8 hours later.
They have caused this and the World needs to wake up.
I cannot fault you on that statement. It is certainly true that WHO officials cannot get to anyone really close to the initial outbreak. I am sure all the evidence is now missing. They may not have "caused" it, but they did absolutely nothing to stop it, whatever the origin...and they still have only had a few thousand death (yeah right)
EDIT
Just checked 104,000 cases and 4636 deaths ...unbelievable
Currently they have 14 serious cases!!!!