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DragonPhilljack said:
Swantastic it looks like you and I are the only ones on here who think outside the box on this one!.....<laugh><laugh>
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Phil my main concern is freedom of choice being maintained. If folk want to take the shots because it makes them feel safer then I have no problem with that .

I look closely at both sides of the pros and cons of the shots and the efforts by those in charge misshandling all that is going on and thier efforts to encourage the masses to get jabbed up continuously , and I find the arguments against far out way the reasons for.

Ministers, media and others dont help thier push . In fact it's dangerous as so many dont trust a word they say, if something genuinely important was discovered for the benefit of the people they will most likely be ignored as they have a terrible track record of lying, corruption, self serving fake news and doing anything to keep power and control over the populations. Imo.
 
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Matthew Bound Still Lurks said:
why?
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Controll through 'mass psychosis', look it up....<ok>

All political and religious organisations use fear porn to control the masses, and money/power are usually the goal.

“The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.”- Gustave Le Bon
 
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DragonPhilljack said:
Controll through 'mass psychosis', look it up....<ok>

All political and religious organisations use fear porn to control the masses, and money/power are usually the goal.

“The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.”- Gustave Le Bon
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But we’ve never had control , and control of what, taxation , laws legislation ,money, the rich are still rich ,politicians still wield the power so what exactly is the end game ?
 
Matthew Bound Still Lurks said:
But we’ve never had control , and control of what, taxation , laws legislation ,money, the rich are still rich ,politicians still wield the power so what exactly is the end game ?
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The answer is in the above video, I think that the West feel they are at a disadvantage with Russia and China, this is my opinion but it could be many other reasons, the West obviously feel that democracy can be weak compared to totalitarian regimes like Russia and China so hence the drive to use this pandemic to change the structure of the western democracies, there again it could also be just the ruling elite taking total control in a state of human delusion simply because they can.

Remember stop following the crowd, because they are lost, the truth doesn't mind being questioned, but the lie does, and everyone speaking up doctors, scientists psychologist, thinkers are all being censored on all social media platforms for simply putting out the questions and challenging the narrative we currently find ourselves in.
 
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DragonPhilljack said:
The answer is in the above video, I think that the West feel they are at a disadvantage with Russia and China, this is my opinion but it could be many other reasons, the West obviously feel that democracy can be weak compared to totalitarian regimes like Russia and China so hence the drive to use this pandemic to change the structure of the western democracies, there again it could also be just the ruling elite taking total control in a state of human delusion simply because they can.

Remember stop following the crowd, because they are lost, the truth doesn't mind being questioned, but the lie does, and everyone speaking up doctors, scientists psychologist, thinkers are all being censored on all social media platforms for simply putting out the questions and challenging the narrative we currently find ourselves in.
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As you say ,your opinion, although I'm not sure what exactly the west would have to gain if your hypothesis would be correct, destroy your own economy and watch your "enemies" get stronger or create a scenario where civil war could be a possibility again for what aim .
Many anti vaxers theories just do not make sense , in one of your you tube clips someone ( as Andy Warhol once allegedly stated we'd all have 15 minutes of fame ) makes a statement " mans biggest enemy is man" , no **** sherlock. I don't need a degree in social engineering to appreciate that, has he not heard of nuclear proliferation ?
I'm afraid no one has answered the simple question as to why and for whose benefit ?
 
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Matthew Bound Still Lurks said:
As you say ,your opinion, although I'm not sure what exactly the west would have to gain if your hypothesis would be correct, destroy your own economy and watch your "enemies" get stronger or create a scenario where civil war could be a possibility again for what aim .
Many anti vaxers theories just do not make sense , in one of your you tube clips someone ( as Andy Warhol once allegedly stated we'd all have 15 minutes of fame ) makes a statement " mans biggest enemy is man" , no **** sherlock. I don't need a degree in social engineering to appreciate that, has he not heard of nuclear proliferation ?
I'm afraid no one has answered the simple question as to why and for whose benefit ?
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We can only speculate as to what is driving the current narrative globally, is it population control and reduction? Is it linked to global warming agenda, or is it simply plain old tyranny?

Anyone who denies there is an agenda being played out here is either stupid or lives in a bubble, our transport minister is talking of ending private car ownership? Which will mean more freedoms removed.

When you look at this Omicron variant, it's clear that this is the end of Covid deaths as it is so mild that it has been labelled as a common cold by some scientists, yet the goverment fear porn machine still rolls on with the usual fear garbage, why? This has never been about public health in my view, yes we have a bio-weapon that has been released on the world, for what purpose and what will be the next one? Because Bill Gates assures us that the next one will be far worse? to me this is population control or genocide, and there is clearly a collective world governments consensus in operation.
 
DragonPhilljack said:
We can only speculate as to what is driving the current narrative globally, is it population control and reduction? Is it linked to global warming agenda, or is it simply plain old tyranny?
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This is the problem though.... so much speculation :emoticon-0105-wink: The truth will out at some point, be more patient.

DragonPhilljack said:
Anyone who denies there is an agenda being played out here is either stupid or lives in a bubble, our transport minister is talking of ending private car ownership? Which will mean more freedoms removed.
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There can be no doubt whatsoever that those in power everywhere are using fear to gain more control. This is obvious. Removing freedoms is unfortunately becoming far too easy with the mass moronity of social media addicts and the general dumbing down of the human race.

So to the "elephant in the room".... population. There are too many people and dwindling resources. That is now, the future is extremely bleak. In a hundred years it's going to be like living in a Mad Max movie. Fighting over food, water, housing etc. Things will get ugly. Apply the mass stupidity of toilet roll hoarding and the recent petrol panic to a world where there are many, many more desperate people.

No one talks about it, no one tries to address it and that's because it is impossible for anyone or any government to tackle it. How many people think before having a kid or three? Nobody does. And nobody ever will. Starving to death in Africa? Have more offspring! You can't fight that urge and it's your human right, right? It may be unpalatable but it's a fact. Over population will bring down society and maybe even the human race itself. I still expect a far more virulent virus than Coronovirus to appear as well in the not too distant future.

I hate to sound so pessimistic but human greed will never abate. It's that simple. And with greater numbers and less resources it can only get worse. Maybe those with the money and power know this and are preparing (or think they are, it won't end well for anybody).

Ok, enough rambling, I must get back to manning the Samaritans helpine <laugh>
 
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daimungeezer said:
This is the problem though.... so much speculation :emoticon-0105-wink: The truth will out at some point, be more patient.



There can be no doubt whatsoever that those in power everywhere are using fear to gain more control. This is obvious. Removing freedoms is unfortunately becoming far too easy with the mass moronity of social media addicts and the general dumbing down of the human race.

So to the "elephant in the room".... population. There are too many people and dwindling resources. That is now, the future is extremely bleak. In a hundred years it's going to be like living in a Mad Max movie. Fighting over food, water, housing etc. Things will get ugly. Apply the mass stupidity of toilet roll hoarding and the recent petrol panic to a world where there are many, many more desperate people.

No one talks about it, no one tries to address it and that's because it is impossible for anyone or any government to tackle it. How many people think before having a kid or three? Nobody does. And nobody ever will. Starving to death in Africa? Have more offspring! You can't fight that urge and it's your human right, right? It may be unpalatable but it's a fact. Over population will bring down society and maybe even the human race itself. I still expect a far more virulent virus than Coronovirus to appear as well in the not too distant future.

I hate to sound so pessimistic but human greed will never abate. It's that simple. And with greater numbers and less resources it can only get worse. Maybe those with the money and power know this and are preparing (or think they are, it won't end well for anybody).

Ok, enough rambling, I must get back to manning the Samaritans helpine <laugh>
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Pick up the bloody phone :headbang:
 
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