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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. QPR999

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    The Legends Stand


    The names and imagery of QPR legends will be added to the Loft Stand.


    We have agreed a small working group comprising of fans and club representatives to agree the exact details, the budget required, an implementation plan and the choice of legends.All supporters will be kept fully informed of progress made. We will need the input of fans to help with the funding and to also ensure that what is planned is in line with what the majority of QPR fans want.


    More details will follow in 2022.
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

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    Finally
    The Devon white stand
     
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  3. Star of David Bardsley

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    If you can even call him Devon White these days!!!
     
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    Are you telling me that in order to be more inclusive we have to call him West Country White now?
     
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    Only after he becomes a transformer (humans in disguise) and super glues himself to a statue in Exmouth.:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Labour have no policies or something.

     
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    Well done Hillingdon council. All Xmas refuse and recycling collected this morning.
     
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    They were going to do it anyway. Lower fuel prices are a Brexit bonus....

     
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    please log in to view this image
     
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    What the world needs is a virus to cull the population
     
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    Effective contraception would be preferable
     
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    Be patient. We may all be a bit too dead to appreciate the benefits which are definitely coming our way.
     
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    Fine journalism from the mails Richard littlejohn
     
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    Written about 6 months ago. Is what he says true, i.e., do organisations such as Stonewall make thinly-disguised threats of smearing other bodies as homophobic etc. if they decline to participate in Stonewall’s ‘Diversity Champion’ initiative? I have no idea if this is true, but seems (from the article) that the E&HRC have found this to be the case.

    I appreciate that you have a loathing of the Daily Mail and your instinct is to reject anything coming out of it as right-wing hate etc., but I’d be interested in your thoughts about the content all the same.
     
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    I’ve mentioned previously that I have issues with Stonewall, partly to do with what you are suggesting in that to gain their top 100 you seemingly have to participate in their courses and pay them for stuff. The organisation I work for has put on a couple of Stonewall courses in the last few years and they were beneficial. I will add I work for a particularly large company that Stonewall could have easily targeted but they have never made any threats thinly veiled or otherwise. In fact nobody I knows businesses have received such threats.

    I know Stonewall, like a lot of organisations aren’t immune to making the odd stupid statement however to use this to liken them to the Krays is quite frankly ridiculous and Littlejohn knows exactly the reaction he’s trying to obtain by making such comments.
     
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    Richard Littlejohn is always over the top but some will say there's a valid comparison. Gaining a financial advantage through threats. Of course, the Krays threatened violence which Stonewall does not.

    Here's the full article:

    Two goons in dark suits walk into an East End boozer, followed by a man with a Crombie draped over his shoulders. They ask the terrified barman to fetch the landlord.

    Drinkers fall silent. Some head for the door.

    'Nice little place you've got here,' Crombie tells Mine Host. 'Wouldn't want anything happening to it.' He then explains that for a small consideration, the pub can be insured against any unwelcome mishap — criminal damage, fires, that sort of thing.

    Call it a monkey a week for cash. Razors will be around on Friday to collect the first instalment. That way nobody gets hurt.

    This offer-you-can't-refuse was the stock-in-trade of gangsters like the Krays in the 1960s.

    Today's social justice warriors will be horrified when I compare them to Ron and Reg. But their tactics are basically the same.

    Outfits like Stop Funding Hate and Stonewall are running what are effectively protection rackets. Do as we say, or else.

    The Twins used physical intimidation. The wokerati deploy more subtle, but equally menacing, ideological intimidation. Instead of pubs and nightclubs, the targets today are giant corporations and public institutions.

    The latest target of this bunch of far-Left headbangers is Andrew Neil's newly launched GB News TV station

    Take Stonewall, a once admirable lobby group which has achieved its principal aim of equality under the law for homosexuals.

    I'm not going to get involved in their internal squabbles, which have been comprehensively aired by prominent gay rights pioneers such as Simon Fanshawe writing in the Mail.

    But with the big battles won, instead of declaring victory and disbanding, Stonewall has expanded its ambitions. These days it makes a fortune selling 'advice' to everyone from banks and financial institutions to the police, the Armed Forces, schools, colleges and government departments.

    Get with the programme and, in exchange for an annual bung starting at £2,500, Stonewall will reward you with LGBT-friendly 'Diversity Champion' status — the woke equivalent of a Blue Peter badge.

    Outfits like Stop Funding Hate and Stonewall are running what are effectively protection rackets. Do as we say, or else. Pictured: Stop Funding Hate founder Richard Wilson

    The flip side is those who refuse to take part are, by implication, at risk of being labelled homophobic and transphobic.

    And we wouldn't want that now, would we? It's cheaper to pay up than suffer reputational damage.

    The scheme has proved to be a nice little earner for Stonewall, which has been pulling in more than £3 million a year. But not for much longer. This lucrative racket has been rumbled. Even the Equality and Human Rights Commission has decided enough is enough.

    Stop Funding Hate is a more sinister proposition altogether. It uses technological intimidation to shut down free speech.

    The latest target of this bunch of far-Left headbangers is Andrew Neil's newly launched GB News TV station, which was accused of peddling 'hate' even before it went on air. SFH has been stoking up a tedious Twitterstorm to bully advertisers into boycotting the station. Their message is clear: advertise with GB News and we will destroy you.

    Shamefully, a number of leading corporations, including Ikea, Nivea and Grolsch, have capitulated, issuing statements parroting fashionable nostrums about 'inclusivity' and vowing never to advertise on GB News again.

    Hilariously, their pious stances have backfired, simply drawing attention to some of their own dubious corporate 'values' — such as Ikea spying on their own workers and Nivea flogging skin-lightening creams to black Africans.

    Shamefully, a number of leading corporations, including Ikea, Nivea and Grolsch, have vowed never to advertise on GB News again

    You couldn't make it up.

    That's almost beside the point, though. The question isn't just why these spineless corporations cave in so cravenly, like a frightened publican paying off the Krays. What makes them think their traditional customers will take any notice of a bunch of social justice warriors bashing away on a laptop above a kebab shop in Stoke Newington? It's just as likely to have the opposite effect.

    Why are they appeasing revolutionaries who want to smash the free market system from which they derive their profits?

    Grolsch vowed never to advertise on GB News again

    Here's another analogy. Back in the 1970s and 1980s, when I was an industrial correspondent, secondary picketing was commonplace. This was the practice of shutting down a supplier to put pressure on an employer with whom the unions were in dispute. It was outlawed by Mrs Thatcher. Why should blameless third-parties suffer collateral damage?

    Yet isn't that exactly what's going on here? Stop Funding Hate's threats to disrupt companies who advertise with broadcasters and publications of which it disapproves is secondary picketing by another name.

    If they mass picketed Ikea stores, trying physically to turn customers away, they'd soon be staring down the barrel of an injunction, as a basis for negotiation.

    I was going to say they'd be moved on by police, but these days the Old Bill would probably join them, given their approach to BLM and Extinction Rebellion.

    It's bad enough that social distancing and face masks appear to be here to stay. But can we please give the elbow the elbow. Boris was at it again this week with the Aussie Prime Minister. They looked ridiculous, like Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor in Stir Crazy. At the G7, Boris bumped elbows with everyone. Maybe he's a fan of the late, great soul man Rufus Thomas: You flap your arms and your feet start kicking, That's when you know you doin' the Funky Chicken!

    But in reality, there aren't anywhere near enough of them to blockade every Ikea store in the country. So they hide behind the anonymous shield of social media, which exaggerates their strength out of all proportion.

    When will it finally dawn on these gormless corporations that Twitter isn't the real world?

    This madness will only end when the rest of us fight fire with fire. Some Tory MPs are now proposing a consumer boycott of companies which give in to Stop Funding Hate.

    Sounds like a plan to me. I've already put my money where my mouth is and kept my promise not to renew my two season tickets at Spurs in protest at the 'taking the knee' nonsense.

    No more Nivea Men aftershave, either. Boycotting Ikea won't be a problem. I only ever went there once, and it was hell on earth. And, anyway, my wife has banned me from attempting to build self-assembly furniture.

    As Squeeze almost sang, it's the language she don't need.

    But if Stonewall can be stopped, so can Stop Funding Hate. If enough of us take our custom elsewhere, these cowardly corporations will soon get the message:

    Nice little business you've got here. Wouldn't want anything happening to it . . .
     
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    Interesting to note that despite social media 'pile-ons' and the general online hatred of GB News their viewing figures are ahead of Sky News and the BBC News channel and the Mail and Sun circulation figures outsell all the left leaning papers put together.

    I think those companies that submit to such threats are over-estimating the consequences. That will be more noticeable as the financial climate deteriorates in the coming year. People generally will shop where they get the best deals, supposed ethics usually come a poor 2nd when budgets dictate...
     
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    For me GBnews is better than the others. It has a mixed bag of opinions and they let people speak without all the Nagga/Burley but ins. It had its problems at the start but it's slick now ( bar the odd sound issue). Silly lefties slating it before it went live... The same ones that troll Twitter with ‘ Brexit disaster’ ‘corrupt tories’. They need to get a life.
    Only one I have been disappointed with is Michelle Dewberry who is hopeless and her voice is annoying. Other than that it has some good content.
     
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