Match Day Thread Liverpool v Newcastle

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saintKlopp said:
Shelvey, with 5 minutes to go, thinking "Well at least I got the best goal of the night"
Then...
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Shelvey likes scoring goals against us... And own goals for us... <laugh>

He's always involved in our fixtures, maybe not always for the right reasons.
 
luvgonzo said:
Really, that is interesting I couldn't see his point and didn't think AOC played very well.
The graphics he was showing also made no sense.

Got a link to what Klopp said?
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BBC site.
Didn't look further for anything specific to the last game, but clearly Klopp is seeing something.
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is back at his best, says Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp.

The 28-year-old midfielder has started in the Reds' past three games and played a key tactical role in their 3-1 win over Newcastle on Thursday.

"It has been the best Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain since I have been here," said Klopp.

"I know he has had some spectacular moments. But it is a new quality, calming the game down and being really involved in all the things on the pitch.

"It is a massive step. I am really happy with him at the moment."
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luvgonzo said:
Really, that is interesting I couldn't see his point and didn't think AOC played very well.
The graphics he was showing also made no sense.

Got a link to what Klopp said?
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I thought Ox played well. Didn't do anything to stand out but he work hard and tried to make things happen. Still a long to go for him though
 
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luvgonzo said:
Cool. I love how clueless we all really are. :biggrin:
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We don't see it all though, do we? We see what the cameramen/director choose to show us and rarely do we get a big enough view to truly assess movement and shape. This is why being at the ground is such a superior experience overall.
Even with what we can see we're not necessarily following anyone other than those actually in possession.
There'll still be some on here who insist that their contrary opinion is correct, because this is human nature - but my logic suggests that the coaching staff have a far more accurate awareness of the big picture, which is why I rarely moan about their decisions.
For years we've seen players like Hendo and Wijnaldum criticised for their style of play and their decision making, I've always maintained that they were doing what they were told to do to the best of their ability. Both were criticised for being negative, but both have demonstrated what they can do going forward when allowed that freedom. The role they were playing is one that routinely goes under the radar with most of us.
Tbh, the constant carping on here after a poor result often puts me off coming here for a bit - and the belief that we as armchair fans know more than the professionals is frankly silly.
 
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saintKlopp said:
We don't see it all though, do we? We see what the cameramen/director choose to show us and rarely do we get a big enough view to truly assess movement and shape. This is why being at the ground is such a superior experience overall.
Even with what we can see we're not necessarily following anyone other than those actually in possession.
There'll still be some on here who insist that their contrary opinion is correct, because this is human nature - but my logic suggests that the coaching staff have a far more accurate awareness of the big picture, which is why I rarely moan about their decisions.
For years we've seen players like Hendo and Wijnaldum criticised for their style of play and their decision making, I've always maintained that they were doing what they were told to do to the best of their ability. Both were criticised for being negative, but both have demonstrated what they can do going forward when allowed that freedom. The role they were playing is one that routinely goes under the radar with most of us.
Tbh, the constant carping on here after a poor result often puts me off coming here for a bit - and the belief that we as armchair fans know more than the professionals is frankly silly.
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It's great to have an opinion and enjoyable to discuss the game but when people push that as knowing more than the manager, coaching staff or players it's laughable.
 
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saintKlopp said:
We don't see it all though, do we? We see what the cameramen/director choose to show us and rarely do we get a big enough view to truly assess movement and shape. This is why being at the ground is such a superior experience overall.
Even with what we can see we're not necessarily following anyone other than those actually in possession.
There'll still be some on here who insist that their contrary opinion is correct, because this is human nature - but my logic suggests that the coaching staff have a far more accurate awareness of the big picture, which is why I rarely moan about their decisions.
For years we've seen players like Hendo and Wijnaldum criticised for their style of play and their decision making, I've always maintained that they were doing what they were told to do to the best of their ability. Both were criticised for being negative, but both have demonstrated what they can do going forward when allowed that freedom. The role they were playing is one that routinely goes under the radar with most of us.
Tbh, the constant carping on here after a poor result often puts me off coming here for a bit - and the belief that we as armchair fans know more than the professionals is frankly silly.
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That is one of the main reasons I don’t generally comment negatively on players despite being amazingLy pessimistic
I also think that hard workers are essential to any team - and good ones
I mean top top ones I personally believe are rarer that talented players
Also players like Origi are amazingly rare that are pretty talented and are happy to not just sit on the bench and take a cheque but come on and make a difference and never moan
I loved Kuyt too
Not many like him - similar but not his level - but it’s just an opinion
 
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Ox made some runs and some passes v newcastle but in the end it's about balance and henderson and thisgo provided little to none as a pair.

Newcastle only threat was maximin running and we basically left the whole midfield vacant at times.
 
luvgonzo said:
Thiago had a bad game, he usually grows into a match but it just didn't happen for him.
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Yeah, bowlers but for me it's more about shape and while they stood beside cbs for a pass sometimes, neither provided any adequate cover as they lashed up the park with abandon
 
luvgonzo said:
Thiago had a bad game, he usually grows into a match but it just didn't happen for him.
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Yeah. I said a few days ago that it's good to see how involved he is and has bought into things in a big way - but his performances are still a bit erratic, and that surprises me.
 
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