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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Nads, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Essayyeffcee

    Essayyeffcee Well-Known Member

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    Thought it was strange how they moved the 5 back markers after Posh Spice's replacement started moaning over the radio
     
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  2. SAFCDRUM

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    Hamilton was 20 seconds ahead with 5/6 laps to go and Verstappen had traffic ahead of him. I'm bemused that after the crash with one lap to go he is allowed to be virtually neck and neck on fresher tyres. It stinks.
     
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  3. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    only because he didn't do a pit stop for tyres which did him in the end, what he did on the first lap was also illegal against the rules, people to blame are the stewards and Mercedes strategy not verstappen, people are gutted for him , but his own team tactics were ****
     
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    Agreed re tactics but Hamilton wouldn't have been caught unless that crash happened. Honestly, I watch it as a layman and dont particularly care which rich person beats which but I dont believe justice was done today.
     
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  5. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    His team tactics were ****e but at the end of the day 11 seconds ahead prior to the safety car coming on. Level when it left. F*cking stinks.
     
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  6. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    sorry mate i think your missing a big point he was only 11 seconds ahead due to not stopping on team orders he even questioned the not stopping i heard him he was told by his team it was to maintain the advantage, but his tyres were ****ed he would have won if a safety car had not come out due to a crash, but it did and he didn't have that lead any more.
     
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  7. Gil T Azell

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    I agree he had the chance and refused but without that safety car he won. Simple as that. The overtaking of the safety car by 3 or 4 cars which I believe is not allowed. How come that was allowed.
    Dont get me wrong I dont like LH but that was his race today and nothing will convince me otherwise that officials decided that race today and not the drivers.
     
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  8. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    see your point mate but no body is saying anything about his cheat at the beginning of the race as without that lead he would have been in Verstappens DRS range and easy for him to keep that going as Hamilton would not have pulled away therefore he would have been on the same tyre changes, ive been watching formula one since graham hill i always keep up with rule changes, and seen loads i didn't agree with especially in the James Hunt era
     
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  9. Comfy

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    He had to stay out mate cause he would have lost the lead to verstappen if he went in for fresh tyres and he was passing the pit lane as the safety car came out. Don't know about the 1st lap incident but if he had to give up the lead after the incident it wouldn't have been too long until he got the lead back. The merc was so much faster than red bull for 57 laps of the race
     
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  10. Makemstine Roger

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    its no problem mate, it funny how people see things from different points of view, as i find there was a crash and he caught Lewis he had fresh tyres with 90% DRS when Hamilton had no DRS as he was in front DRS gives a 12 mph faster advantage, it was neck and neck who won as the other cars had to move aside anyway which the rules clearly state
     
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  11. BackO'TheNet

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    'I suspect this hasn't ended here'
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    Andrew Benson

    BBC Sport’s chief F1 writer

    I suspect this hasn't ended here. The second protest by Mercedes has been rejected, I don't think Mercedes are going to be happy about that.

    Lots of people up and down the pitlane have got questions about how the FIA have handled this race.

    I have spoken to people who think if it had not been a world championship decider it probably would have ended behind a safety car.

    Where the rules followed correctly?

    Was the way things were dealt with by FIA race director Michael Masi appropriate?

    All these issues need to be discussed.

    The creditability of the sport has been brought into question this weekend and I think a lot of people will have serious questions about what has happened.
     
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    It is complete bollocks, if I was Mercedes I would quit F1... ie take my ball away...the decisions that plonker made at the end of the race were appalling
     
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  13. Makemstine Roger

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    i take it you didn't hear Lewis questioning the pit crew on two occasions before the crash, as to why he wasn't brought in for a change they said then it was to maintain the advantage, when Lewis told them his tyres were degradatied and couldn't keep that pace up, i taped it from the stream so i could go back and rewatch critical aspects of the race,
    i fully agree the Merc was faster Lewis is a brilliant driver, but today was a case of bad luck and bad pit crew decisions, which nearly worked out but were beaten by a crash.
     
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  14. Chunksafc

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    Can't ever recall seeing that happen before, it's either all lapped cars go off and catch up the back, then the safety car comes in the next lap or none pass.

    Teams make decisions based on those regulations, that's all out the window now as the FIA have released that statement, saying the race director can do as he pleases.

    If that is now the precedent how can drivers or teams make strategic decisions if the RD can do as he likes
     
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  15. Makemstine Roger

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    Lewis handled the defeat like a pro should and didn't whinge, he had all the facts and i heard nearly all his communications with the pits Lewis blames them for the wrong strategy there are no complaints from him he is a true sportsman he fully understands the rules and how the race played out the best pit crew tactics won the day which is how most races finish these days pit stop advantage rules
     
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    Never heard that mate, you could see why they kept him out as he would've lost the lead to verstappen if he had of been called in. Red bull were always gonna do the opposite to what merc done, you could say it was a good call by red bull but for me Hamilton was in no danger all race until the stewards got involved
     
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  17. Chunksafc

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    If the crash hadn't happened Lewis would have won.

    If they had let All the lapped cars past and then had the saftwy car in the lap after the race would have finished under the saftwy car and Lewis would have won

    If they didn't let any lapped cars past, max would have had 1 lap to overtake the lapped cars and Lewis. Chances are Lewis would have won.

    The only way max wins that race is by the decision made by the race director in my opinion
     
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  18. Makemstine Roger

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    those rules have been in place all year except when rain affects the safety car, Lewis asked his pit crew t
    i was watching the race all the way through and now have the advantage to go back list stop rewind listen to communications that's why Lewis took it on the chin, he knows the rules, i had the same discussion with my wife shes Kenyan and adores him and was most upset till i put the headphones on her and played back to her every thing she questioned, now she understands i have put down all the facts i know its up to people to see it as they want it but even Lewis is not complaining which he has done lots of times before if he thinks a decision was unjust.
     
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  19. Gil T Azell

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  20. Chunksafc

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    I never knew the race director could do as he pleases though
     
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