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[brb]

Mind you i don't understand why folk expect the state not want to reclaim years and years of care home fees from the estate and instead let them have the money .

I feel that bit is a different argument, in that I've always said that we put our old folk in a home and somehow diminish our responsibilty when doing so. I know both sexes work now, and looking after an elderly family member is a full time job, but I do think in SOME cases, people could be looking after their own at home, but there has never been any assessments to justify you breaking that ownership of family members. Some people shouldn't even be in hospital, they are taking up a bed, because a place in a home might not have been sought yet, yet there seems to be no obligations on the family home, I just find that weird as a social structure.

 

[brb]

Doesn’t it only cover care costs as well. Homes are pretty much free to charge what they like for board and lodgings.

I don't know mate, but expect you are right.

 

[Sucky]

I think it went through. I forgot to add, anyone with assets less than £20k pay nothing but it still don't make it right that they are protecting the wealth of the wealthy, after all as someone from Labour I think it was pointed out, just because you have a bigger house, does not mean you worked harder than someone with a smaller house.

I gotta vacate bro this **** just pusses me off

 

[Sucky]

Doesn’t it only cover care costs as well. Homes are pretty much free to charge what they like for board and lodgings.

Yeh, board and oyher costs are not included.

 

[brb]

Yeh, board and oyher costs are not included.

So if you can afford it, you eat well. If you can't afford they give you a tin of spam.

 

[Sucky]

So if you can afford it, you eat well. If you can't afford they give you a tin of spam.

Probably Corned beef as spam will be deemed too expensive for old poor people in ill health.

So.... Whens the protest?

 

[brb]

Probably Corned beef as spam will be deemed too expensive for old poor people in ill health.

So.... Whens the protest?

Next General Election mate.

 

[Sucky]

Next General Election mate.

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[Tobes]

I think without explaining it in great detail, the long and short of it is that he's capped care home costs at something like £86k for everyone. But it dosen't help the poor, it only advantages the well off, so for example....

If your house is worth £100k somewhere in the North, it means your family only get to inherit £14k

but

If your house is worth £900k somewhere in the South, it means your family get to inherit £814k

As it was, I think care homes ate up your money and home, until you had nowt left, so the idea was to stop that and also level up, because house prices are different guaged on where you live.

In simple terms Boris has shafted anyone with little money, while rewarding those higher up the tree. If I've got this example wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me, oh and National Insurance is going up...another thing that should be noted with that, NI is only payable up to a certain threshold at the top rate, again benefiting the wealthy, this is nowt new, but if the government wanted more money it's an area I feel they could have looked at.

The £86k cap takes also takes no account of the huge regional variations in the cost of care homes. So the Southerner will reach the cap limit well before the Northerner. Even the bloke who actually came up with calculation admits it’s completely unfair and he regrets penning it. Levelling up though.

 

[brb]

The £86k cap takes also takes no account of the huge regional variations in the cost of care homes. So the Southerner will reach the cap limit well before the Northerner. Even the bloke who actually came up with calculation admits it’s completely unfair and he regrets penning it. Levelling up though.

Good shout, I hadn't considered that.

 

[Tobes]

Good shout, I hadn't considered that.

I honestly don’t understand why they pushed this through, it’s so obviously and basically flawed and it’s been pointed out as such by all sides of the house. Yet they ploughed on regardless, they could have easily corrected this and benefitted the treasury at the same time, but no. It’s hard to understand the mindset that drives **** like this tbh, it feels vengeful.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I honestly don’t understand why they pushed this through, it’s so obviously and basically flawed and it’s been pointed out as such by all sides of the house. Yet they ploughed on regardless, they could have easily corrected this and benefitted the treasury at the same time, but no. It’s hard to understand the mindset that drives **** like this tbh, it feels vengeful.

Then it probably is. The same ****ing pleb turkeys will vote for Christmas regardless.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

It’s hard to understand the mindset that drives **** like this tbh, it feels vengeful.

Wasn't that hard after all!

 

[pieguts]

Good shout, I hadn't considered that.

This is where I get slightly confused. If you remove the board and lodgings element which could have a huge impact on costs due to house prices in the SE, surely the care element is the same, or should at least be, no matter where you live in the country?

Edit,
Just had another read and I’m being a little too simplistic in my interpretation

 

[Solid Air]

This is where I get slightly confused. If you remove the board and lodgings element which could have a huge impact on costs due to house prices in the SE, surely the care element is the same, or should at least be, no matter where you live in the country?

no as the cost of living for the staff is higher in the south .

 

[PINKIE]

I honestly don’t understand why they pushed this through, it’s so obviously and basically flawed and it’s been pointed out as such by all sides of the house. Yet they ploughed on regardless, they could have easily corrected this and benefitted the treasury at the same time, but no. It’s hard to understand the mindset that drives **** like this tbh, it feels vengeful.

Hopefully the Lords will torch it.

 

[pieguts]

no as the cost of living for the staff is higher in the south .

Is it. In my experience, this industry only offers minimum wage?

 

[Solid Air]

Is it. In my experience, this industry only offers minimum wage?

best of luck filling your vacancies then particularly with nursing staff .

 

[brb]

This is where I get slightly confused. If you remove the board and lodgings element which could have a huge impact on costs due to house prices in the SE, surely the care element is the same, or should at least be, no matter where you live in the country?

I think the whole thing is wrong.

Also what happens if someone takes equity release in a property, spends it, then say two years later requires a care home, because surely then that reduces what the government can count as assets.

 

[pieguts]

best of luck filling your vacancies then particularly with nursing staff .

I think you are confusing care homes and nursing homes. My mum, who has dementia, lives in a care home. Believe me the staff in there are typically minimum wage