Coronavirus

It literally is. He’s trying to misrepresent the deaths from COVID after vaccination, and he is a welder from Scunthorpe - who’s rattling his tin the minute you click on his misinformation site.

 

I don't give a fk who or what he is fella......I'll let others decide if he's screwed the figures or whether the screwing is the other way around.


Ps what percentage of the school children being offered the vaccine would you say are capable of totally understanding the leaflet in jab box

 

The figures are merely fact, what he’s done is create a false narrative to accompany them. The detail of cause of death is also available but he chose to swerve that, as that wouldn’t have suited the narrative he’d created.

There’s load out there doing similar ‘work’ some are just completely dishonest like Joe Smalley who merely twists the data and adds his own assumptions to his calculations, before publishing reams of graphs that are pure misinformation.

 

Don't think it was Crass......not totally sure though

 

Fk me you not listened to the last 18months on mainstream.....you just described it well

 

Anyways bye for now.

 

haha oh yea i forgot about yas. Only if it's malicious Saff.

 

I thought i'd investigate. It appears Covid has probably mutated to a safer variant. See deaths numbers below since March (yes i chose March as it favours the anti vax argument).



Sorry i didn't label the first column properly, where it says deaths, thats deaths for the unvaccinated.

In fact, it sort of makes sense now that i analyse the numbers of the double jabbed deaths, back in Jan -> Feb when most of the deaths where happening, there were no double jabbed people

 

Not sure where you lifted that from, but there’s a couple of issues with it. Firstly the ONS doesn’t use the term ‘jabbed’ and secondly the numbers don’t actually add up lol.

 

I hadn't even picked up on that beauty

 

i renamed it myself tobes

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...tinsights/deaths#deaths-by-vaccination-status

I was really surprised by the chart myself. Go to download data on deaths by vaccination status

 

Columns C,J,Q,X on their csv download

 

@BobbyD throwin out knock off data???
Is anyone genuinely shocked?

 

some investigative journalism to back up @aberdude

it's actually pretty surprising.

 

The first thing I seen when I opened the link was this, Bobby.

Deaths involving COVID-19 are consistently lower for people who have received two vaccinations

 

I can only show you what the number say Saff and thats the numbers the ONS have provided.

From 07-May-21 -> 02-Jul-21, double vaccinated people have been dying from Covid more than Unvaccinated people.

That's just pure numbers. These numbers do surprise me but putting my thinking brain on, the double vaccinated at this period of the year was the most vulnerable and were always more likely to die from it.

The numbers in general are much better compared to January-21 -> Feb-21 where thousands were dying from covid.

 

I’m not sure what you think you’ve unearthed mate. This is the paragraph underneath their graph.

There were 640 deaths involving COVID-19 in people who had received both vaccine doses (England, 2 January to 2 July 2021). This accounts for 1.2% of all deaths involving COVID-19 in that period (51,281 deaths). In people who received their second dose at least 21 days before date of death, deaths involving COVID-19 accounted for 0.8% of all deaths. This compares with 37.4% of all deaths in unvaccinated individuals. Some deaths are expected in vaccinated individuals as the number of people who are vaccinated is high and no vaccine is 100% effective.

 

I don't deny that, if you are looking at people who have died since January, you are correct. How many people were double vaxxed in Jan and Feb though? Hardly any and that was the height of the most covid when it was at it's most deadly. It might be a case it will rise up again in Winter where arguably flu type viruses seem to spread but as of the last 2 months of data, double jabbed deaths outnumber unvaccinated deaths and theres not actually a massive difference in terms of deaths in the last 3 months of data (April-> July)

Whether you determine that long enough is a different matter

 

Got my geek on, i was trying to understand the ONS datas better.

I can confirm you are more likely to die (not really a surprise) when you are unvaxxed to double vaxxed. See the % of people dying the population numbers provided in the same chart. What i'm not sure about is why the ONS numbers only use a population of 39m rather than the full population? Is that to do with it being data only on adults?

 

They’re using the adult population and obvs the unvaccinated number shrinks by the week and the fully vaccinated figures rises.