Off Topic Coronavirus

[Jiffie]

I noticed, you didn't list all the delay in screening for breast. bowel, cervical cancers etc...not forgetting many delaying other serious illnesses not being able to be referred straight away ..the 1000s that will go undiagnosed early giving less chance for treatment to work.... doesn't bare thinking about

I suspect that the figures are regional, the NHS in some places is to reliant on highly paid double barrelled twats, who couldn't organise a piss up at Thatcher's brewery, but are good at funny shake hands with other men or are the wives of such men, much like many charities I would never donate to, when it should be retired clinicians on a far lesser wage who know how to organise, prioritise and not waste money.

As I said in a previous I have noticed very little if any change.

Last Wednesday I called my health centre for a phone call from my doctor and after telling the receptionist why, he said "both those ailments are ongoing and obviously not improving, I can book you in to see your doctor on Friday and I live in an area described as 'gods waiting room'.

 

[Jiffie]

Sorry, still think it's all misleading...You could have lung Cancer and be on your last couple of months on this earth, but if you test positive within 28 days of a covid test.....that is what's registered..... if you then die..

This is nothing new, we have known about this from day one. The INDEPENDENT ONS was advised by the WHO not to record deaths in the way that they do, but for some ridiculous reason they ignored that advice.

But hey the WHO have blood on their hands with their collusion with China at the outset of this pandemic.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

All the prick doctor kept saying was "do a PCR test", try doing that to a 10 month kid who is ill, incredibly traumatic, my granddaughter is a nurse and even she struggled, but did it on a daily basis and they were always negative, but still the lazy twat would not see him, it meant a bus journey from Portishead and sitting around in A & E for hours, with a negative tested traumatised baby, emptying from both ends FFS.

The good news is my granddaughter is a nurse in intensive care and the on call respiratory consultant, is somebody she works with, who has set my great grandson on hopefully the right path and ripped her doctors practice a new arsehole, the big hope now is it doesn't turn to pneumonia.

And guess what? there wasn't even a spare bed in the respiratory wards, because it was full of people suffering with something that apparently doesn't exist.

It's ok listening to fecking funeral directors and GP's who are still not doing their jobs properly, maybe some of these deniers should listen to the people in intensive care units instead.

GP's have a lot to answer for.

First of all, I hope your great grandson is on the mend.
I had a similar experience with my then 6 year old grandson, this was a few years before the Pandemic..
My daughter who was staying with us at the time noticed a very strange rash over my grandsons body, which got worse and he was feeling really unwell.
In the morning, we made an appointment with GP as it become very worrying.. We did do the glass test to try and rule out meningitis..and funny enough I did a bit of google research and came up (honestly) with the idea that it looked as if it was Scarlet fever....although quite rare nowadays.
Went to the GP, whom never had a clue and prescribed something to get his temperature down, but also referred us to the children's hospital straight away, we had to take him.....but he was feeling at this stage really unwell.
We were there for hours with different consultants, mainly young, that looked but clueless.....finally on the fifth consultant that must have been in his early 60s, looked at him for less than a minute and diagnosed.......................yes you guessed it...Scarlet Fever!!
Sometimes I do think, it's why the hospitals are so busy!!!

NB. My daughter in law is a nurse, mainly nights at the BRI....just recently gone back (last couple of weeks) after maternity leave .tells me it's the quietest she's ever known

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

This is nothing new, we have known about this from day one. The INDEPENDENT ONS was advised by the WHO not to record deaths in the way that they do, but for some ridiculous reason they ignored that advice.

But hey the WHO have blood on their hands with their collusion with China at the outset of this pandemic.

That's why I wanted to see different tables and numbers, nothing to do with moon landings!!

 

[Jiffie]

First of all, I hope your great grandson is on the mend.
I had a similar experience with my then 6 year old grandson, this was a few years before the Pandemic..
My daughter who was staying with us at the time noticed a very strange rash over my grandsons body, which got worse and he was feeling really unwell.
In the morning, we made an appointment with GP as it become very worrying.. We did do the glass test to try and rule out meningitis..and funny enough I did a bit of google research and came up (honestly) with the idea that it looked as if it was Scarlet fever....although quite rare nowadays.
Went to the GP, whom never had a clue and prescribed something to get his temperature down, but also referred us to the children's hospital straight away, we had to take him.....but he was feeling at this stage really unwell.
We were there for hours with different consultants, mainly young, that looked but clueless.....finally on the fifth consultant that must have been in his early 60s, looked at him for less than a minute and diagnosed.......................yes you guessed it...Scarlet Fever!!
Sometimes I do think, it's why the hospitals are so busy!!!

NB. My daughter in law is a nurse, mainly nights at the BRI....just recently gone back (last couple of weeks) after maternity leave .tells me it's the quietest she's ever known

Depends where she works in the BRI, my granddaughter also works there, also about to return from maternity leave and most of the wards connected to intensive care are overflowing.

I know all about the failures of the BRI, my dad died in a makeshift intensive care room, that was a fecking store cupboard about 30 years to the day, the care he got was wonderful and to see nurses in tears after his expected passing was moving, but the organisation of the Bristol health trusts remains appalling.

 

[Jiffie]

That's why I wanted to see different tables and numbers, nothing to do with moon landings!!

They will prove nothing other than what we know already, only the lefties in the labour party take any joy out of the higher numbers.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

They will prove nothing other than what we know already, only the lefties in the labour party take any joy out of the higher numbers.

I know they won't prove anything, other than, it will show the numbers that are published to be incorrect to the naive and a balance to where we really are..

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

Depends where she works in the BRI, my granddaughter also works there, also about to return from maternity leave and most of the wards connected to intensive care are overflowing.

I know all about the failures of the BRI, my dad died in a makeshift intensive care room, that was a fecking store cupboard about 30 years to the day, the care he got was wonderful and to see nurses in tears after his expected passing was moving, but the organisation of the Bristol health trusts remains appalling.

My mum also died there (2015) , respiratory ward....and was not looked after at all, in fact died through lack of care and monitoring through the night..
This went to coroners court, where incidentally, BRI's representatives back each other intensely to the point of utter BS......you don't have a leg to stand on.....We could have fought on, but it was decided, we would have very little chance and most of all, wouldn't bring her back..
My trust from that day towards, these clinical or government type organisations remains and will always remain minimal..

 

[Redprintt]

You and me both 1For.
My daughter was misdiagnosed January and June 2018 finally confirmed in the November.
We tried to ask questions of the RUH but we were stonewalled.
Will never forgive them.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

You and me both 1For.
My daughter was misdiagnosed January and June 2018 finally confirmed in the November.
We tried to ask questions of the RUH but we were stonewalled.
Will never forgive them.

So much, for so say medical experts...and to think, we are just a splash in the ocean.to what goes on a daily basis...it's why I'm not in the front running believing most of this crap that's going on....my trust has long gone.....and as it continues to go on, the worse I get..I'm closely monitoring and looking for the BS we will be fed to how it all unfolds!!!

 

[realred1952]

Now on this you are absolutely correct

the only thing correct is what was openly stated no mystery quite open to everybody to understand. IF COVID was a positive within 28 of death, then will go down as a Covid related death. COVID IS A LUNG disease /respiratory. COVID is a killer so when the body is weakened by affect of anti body production, with or without a jab any underlying illness likely cause of death is accelerated …. without covid that patient may have lived 6 month's, whether in hospital or at home [ like my neighbour opposite ] Covid will shorten his life expectancy. Was given a few months to live in APRIL 21 … had COVID in JUNE 2020 [ hospital 3 weeks ] came out worked normally for 7 or 8 months [ COVID LIKELY CAUSE OF QUICKER ONSET OF CURRENT PREDICAMENT?? … on oxygen and pain killer drips at home ..now.

Sorry, still think it's all misleading...You could have lung Cancer and be on your last couple of months on this earth, but if you test positive within 28 days of a covid test.....that is what's registered..... if you then die..

so nothing is misleading, except maybe your interpretation being tailored to make it fit your argument?

I noticed, you didn't list all the delay in screening for breast. bowel, cervical cancers etc...not forgetting many delaying other serious illnesses not being able to be referred straight away ..the 1000s that will go undiagnosed early giving less chance for treatment to work.... doesn't bare thinking about

Something wrong here I had request's to do bowel cancer tests …. mid 2020 my wife had breast screening request in 2020 … replied wary of Covid and works in Care .. had repeat request in Feb 2021 went in March … next door similar request. Daughter had request for cervical smear she declined …
You could put a list as long you want with any or all ailments.... but 6 covers a fe w scenario's but like I said you wont prioritise because it will under mine / scupper your argument …………………..

APPARENTLY, just been advised [ keeping it secret ] neighbour was suspected went for second test clear. Also my wife went to ENT and is on medication because her doctor thought she had throat cancer … its something else … also her tumour was assessed after 3 cancelled appointments … over the phone! by the SWEST's top consultant!
majority of those waiting are non life threatening ail ments, although cataracts, joint replacements are the heavy side of the scales ………

 

[bcfcredandwhite]

the only thing correct is what was openly stated no mystery quite open to everybody to understand. IF COVID was a positive within 28 of death, then will go down as a Covid related death. COVID IS A LUNG disease /respiratory. COVID is a killer so when the body is weakened by affect of anti body production, with or without a jab any underlying illness likely cause of death is accelerated …. without covid that patient may have lived 6 month's, whether in hospital or at home [ like my neighbour opposite ] Covid will shorten his life expectancy. Was given a few months to live in APRIL 21 … had COVID in JUNE 2020 [ hospital 3 weeks ] came out worked normally for 7 or 8 months [ COVID LIKELY CAUSE OF QUICKER ONSET OF CURRENT PREDICAMENT?? … on oxygen and pain killer drips at home ..now.

so nothing is misleading, except maybe your interpretation being tailored to make it fit your argument?



Something wrong here I had request's to do bowel cancer tests …. mid 2020 my wife had breast screening request in 2020 … replied wary of Covid and works in Care .. had repeat request in Feb 2021 went in March … next door similar request. Daughter had request for cervical smear she declined …
You could put a list as long you want with any or all ailments.... but 6 covers a fe w scenario's but like I said you wont prioritise because it will under mine / scupper your argument …………………..

APPARENTLY, just been advised [ keeping it secret ] neighbour was suspected went for second test clear. Also my wife went to ENT and is on medication because her doctor thought she had throat cancer … its something else … also her tumour was assessed after 3 cancelled appointments … over the phone! by the SWEST's top consultant!
majority of those waiting are non life threatening ail ments, although cataracts, joint replacements are the heavy side of the scales ………

My son was working with police emergencies - RTCs, accidents and suicides - the victims were tested for Covid and if found to be positive and no crime was involved then they were logged as Covid deaths.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

the only thing correct is what was openly stated no mystery quite open to everybody to understand. IF COVID was a positive within 28 of death, then will go down as a Covid related death. COVID IS A LUNG disease /respiratory. COVID is a killer so when the body is weakened by affect of anti body production, with or without a jab any underlying illness likely cause of death is accelerated …. without covid that patient may have lived 6 month's, whether in hospital or at home [ like my neighbour opposite ] Covid will shorten his life expectancy. Was given a few months to live in APRIL 21 … had COVID in JUNE 2020 [ hospital 3 weeks ] came out worked normally for 7 or 8 months [ COVID LIKELY CAUSE OF QUICKER ONSET OF CURRENT PREDICAMENT?? … on oxygen and pain killer drips at home ..now.

so nothing is misleading, except maybe your interpretation being tailored to make it fit your argument?



Something wrong here I had request's to do bowel cancer tests …. mid 2020 my wife had breast screening request in 2020 … replied wary of Covid and works in Care .. had repeat request in Feb 2021 went in March … next door similar request. Daughter had request for cervical smear she declined …
You could put a list as long you want with any or all ailments.... but 6 covers a fe w scenario's but like I said you wont prioritise because it will under mine / scupper your argument …………………..

APPARENTLY, just been advised [ keeping it secret ] neighbour was suspected went for second test clear. Also my wife went to ENT and is on medication because her doctor thought she had throat cancer … its something else … also her tumour was assessed after 3 cancelled appointments … over the phone! by the SWEST's top consultant!
majority of those waiting are non life threatening ail ments, although cataracts, joint replacements are the heavy side of the scales ………

To your top section..
As once did flu developing to pneumonia or sepsis if you had heart, kidney or cancer condition but was never registered as flu death.. not fitting my argument it’s just how it was.. you will say of course this is much more dangerous blah blah and maybe it is, but that’s not the point is it? And by the way, I have a full understanding!!
Well maybe you were lucky as regards to screening as I do know a few where it was delayed, plus it been fairly well documented, especially in the last lockdown..which in turn would have delayed treatment down the line if required..

 

[RedorDead]

I am anti Vax and I don’t care what you think.
I am absolutely sick and tired of seeing people that are anti Vax getting ridiculed and bullied on Facebook because of their choice.
YOU need to understand WE have good reason to feel this way and that by simply attacking us or belittling us WILL NOT change our minds. We will not be silenced.
I for one sure will never have another one again. No chance in hell, I don’t care what you say to try and convince me, I’ve fallen for that trap too many times before.
They are absolutely the worst brand of vacuum cleaner ever. It’s Henry all the way for me!

 

[realred1952]

As once did flu developing to pneumonia or sepsis if you had heart, kidney or cancer condition but was never registered as flu death.

Flu and the other ailments have been around for decades, no of course not a given Flu was the cause, there was still entries on the DC to indicate death from Flu, or the influence of it. WHEN YOU MOVE WITH THE TIMES you get a better understanding of health issues,
years ago like in the 50's - early 60's [ even early70's ] a sudden short term illness caused by respiratory was put down as either cancer or tb … reasonably healthy, aged! passed on was natural causes. there was no test for flu …….
doctor was pretty much your only health contact, only time you didn't see your own doctor was if it was urgent then another one in the practice would fit you in as yours was on holiday! the surgery had no booking in.. turn up and get seen, quite a few peeps in waiting room some would say … oh quite busy I will come back tomorrow [ unless it was urgent ]. YOUR DOCTOR would check his notes, prior to death only consultation was a month or 2 ago and make a opinion on that.....
COVID is far far more aggressive than FLU … AND attacks other parts of the body as long term or side affects ….

scientists struggle to understand COVID's affects on body mind and soul so what chance have we mere minnions of mis information got …. is 28 days long enough? should it shorter? I think the 28 days were set because most peeps that died [hospital on ventilators etc etc ] did so inside 4 weeks .. some would come off ventilator after a week or 2 but damage had been done... they passed on … within a couple of weeks.

 

[realred1952]

latest figures ...deaths within 28 days is currently 122 per 100k unvaccinated as opposed to 34 per 100k 2 jabs circa 5m+ over 16's not yet had a jab [ interesting comment over the weekend "how many unaccounted for illegals not had one? ]

Public Health England estimates that the UK vaccination programme has prevented about 24 million infections, 230,000 hospitalisations and 120,000 deaths.

 

[AshtonRed]

I am anti Vax and I don’t care what you think.
I am absolutely sick and tired of seeing people that are anti Vax getting ridiculed and bullied on Facebook because of their choice.
YOU need to understand WE have good reason to feel this way and that by simply attacking us or belittling us WILL NOT change our minds. We will not be silenced.
I for one sure will never have another one again. No chance in hell, I don’t care what you say to try and convince me, I’ve fallen for that trap too many times before.
They are absolutely the worst brand of vacuum cleaner ever. It’s Henry all the way for me!

Couldn’t disagree more mate sorry on so many different levels, but mostly the eyes , they are just sooo creepy. Dyson for me every time.

 

[Jiffie]

Couldn’t disagree more mate sorry on so many different levels, but mostly the eyes , they are just sooo creepy. Dyson for me every time.

Sorry GTech all the way, but Henry for the bedroom.

 

[RedorDead]

Couldn’t disagree more mate sorry on so many different levels, but mostly the eyes , they are just sooo creepy. Dyson for me every time.

My son in law works for Dyson and we have a shark. It winds him up (or bores him) when ever I get it out I tell him Shark is so much better than that Dyson rubbish. He knows that I will get an employee code of him next time when we get our next vacuum to get a Dyson but it humours me at the moment

 

[realred1952]

with NP'S test ................. Heard last night that a doctor friend been jabbed twice has a member of family tested positive …. but he does not have to isolate for 10 days , in fact continues on as normal [ not practicing now retired at 58 on massive pension! ]