Summer transfer rumours

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Football Dinosaur said:
But I read on here that any late new signings would slot straight in and pre season was erellivent? As normal the truth is somewhere in between the 2 extremes.
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"irrelevant". I assume you're aware of his personal circumstances and a) the potential effect it has had (my italics) on him, and b) the reason why we seemingly are close to signing a highly rated youngster on a permanent (my italics again) deal, rather than a loan?
 
Southern Adam said:
again, nobody is blaming. fans entitled to react how they want. doesn't mean the affect can't be acknowledged and doesn't mean that other fans can ask others to be patient / consider it.

I reckon the atmosphere tomorrow is going to be class btw.
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As with most teams as long as we don't go behind the atmosphere wil be good. If we do go behind a few will let frustrations of last 18 months and preseason out. Imo
 
ned_werby said:
"irrelevant". I assume you're aware of his personal circumstances and a) the potential effect it has had (my italics) on him, and b) the reason why we seemingly are close to signing a highly rated youngster on a permanent (my italics again) deal, rather than a loan?
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Him coming in is great.... if it happens. My point was some here justified late signings saying they'd fit right in and results wouldn't be effected. That clearly isn't the case.
 
Pure River Slut said:
My take is that we are a very stressed aggressive set of fans. Great if the opposition feel it (respectfully). Not great if our players get it when they make a human error.
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I think its due to years and years of football anxiety and depression. Ive been a supporter since the late 80's and there has been very few seasons where we have been settled in a mid table, that'll do me, win some, lose some, mentality. We have either been going for promotion or on the cusp of, or suffered, relegation disaster. Throw the drudgery of our recent time in the Premier League into the mix and you can see why the fans can be a fickle, stressed, angry bunch. 3 or 4 seasons of mid table Championship football should be our first aim. It'll probably do the fans a world of good before having to suffer Premier League football again.
 
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Football Dinosaur said:
Don't think you can blame us after the last 5 years of so. I'm shocked so many still turn up let along are vocal.
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So why do they turn up if it’s just do boo? That’s not support.

I can’t believe what I’m reading last few days or weeks, people slating the new owners and the whole regime for having the Gaul to run the club correctly and not throw money after ****e to tick boxes.

We still have a bigger squad than most of the league, that’s not being considered, we have a 5 star rated academy feeding, that’s not considered, just that clubs have signed more players nobody else wanted than us?

Pritchard and Evans are absolutely above League One. Sheff Wed have signed and retained a few who are. As a whole Wigan and Ipswich have very much signed League One players.

The young lads that we have, many of them ain’t young lads as such, they in their 20’s they are good to go.

Players back from loan are like new signings too of course, couldn’t play for us last season.

I’ve been at games when the boos have started 2 or 3 mins in. How is that useful? I’m not saying if you have concerns sit and eat ****. Do it after the game. In the right manner. Don’t take that into the stadium.

We may have players who ability wise aren’t what we are used to but as long as they put a shift in they deserve support.

If someone offered me a job I couldn’t do for crazy money I’d take it. I’d try my best to do it but I’d likely come up short.

This applies to footballers. The clubs been far too big for many over last 3 years strikes me the new ownership are trying to get that right. Pritch from Spurs via Norwich, Evans 50 NI caps from Championship, the LB from Spurs, Doyle from City.

There’s some prestige there, yet people kicking off cos we haven’t signed players from League One who have remained in League One? I guarantee this Spurs lad will have Championship offers so if we lose out that’s not on the club, if we get him it’s magnificent. Will credit be given? Yeah, by the people who always give credit where due.
 
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Southern Adam said:
again, nobody is blaming. fans entitled to react how they want. doesn't mean the affect can't be acknowledged and doesn't mean that other fans can ask others to be patient / consider it.

I reckon the atmosphere tomorrow is going to be class btw.
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Cannot wait, the atmosphere before kick off will be electric... Hhaaawwwwwaaaaaayyyyyyyy the Lad's
 
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Southern Adam said:
he's not played much at all during pre-season so I doubt he'll be anywhere near ready. might even be a few weeks? just guessing like.
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well unless he's injured he'll have a full pre-season with his club, after a summer break, so I would expect him to be fresh as a daisy, certainly able to play in a competitive game, its not as if he's been sat on his arse all summer.
 
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Nads said:
So why do they turn up if it’s just do boo? That’s not support.

I can’t believe what I’m reading last few days or weeks, people slating the new owners and the whole regime for having the Gaul to run the club correctly and not throw money after ****e to tick boxes.

We still have a bigger squad than most of the league, that’s not being considered, we have a 5 star rated academy feeding, that’s not considered, just that clubs have signed more players nobody else wanted than us?

Pritchard and Evans are absolutely above League One. Sheff Wed have signed and retained a few who are. As a whole Wigan and Ipswich have very much signed League One players.

The young lads that we have, many of them ain’t young lads as such, they in their 20’s they are good to go.

Players back from loan are like nee signings too of course, couldn’t play for us last season.

I’ve been at games when the boos have started 2 or 3 mins in. How is that useful? I’m not saying if you have concerns sit and eat ****. Do it after the game. In the right manner. Don’t take that into the stadium.

We may have players who ability wise aren’t what we are used to but as long as they put a shift in they deserve support.

If someone offered me a job I couldn’t do for crazy money I’d take it. I’d try my best to do it but I’d likely come up short.

This applies to footballers. The clubs been far too big for many over last 3 years strikes me the new ownership are trying to get that right. Pritch from Spurs via Norwich, Evans 50 NI caps from Championship, the LB from Spurs, Doyle from City.

There’s some prestige there, yet people kicking off cos we haven’t signed players from League One who have remained in League One? I guarantee this Spurs lad will have Championship offers so if we lose out that’s not on the club, if we get him it’s magnificent. Will credit be given? Yeah, by the people who always give credit where due.
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In my opinion they turn up to support the team. No safc supporter wants ti see the team lose. I just see people taking setbacks in different ways is all.
 
Nads said:
So why do they turn up if it’s just do boo? That’s not support.

I can’t believe what I’m reading last few days or weeks, people slating the new owners and the whole regime for having the Gaul to run the club correctly and not throw money after ****e to tick boxes.

We still have a bigger squad than most of the league, that’s not being considered, we have a 5 star rated academy feeding, that’s not considered, just that clubs have signed more players nobody else wanted than us?

Pritchard and Evans are absolutely above League One. Sheff Wed have signed and retained a few who are. As a whole Wigan and Ipswich have very much signed League One players.

The young lads that we have, many of them ain’t young lads as such, they in their 20’s they are good to go.

Players back from loan are like nee signings too of course, couldn’t play for us last season.

I’ve been at games when the boos have started 2 or 3 mins in. How is that useful? I’m not saying if you have concerns sit and eat ****. Do it after the game. In the right manner. Don’t take that into the stadium.

We may have players who ability wise aren’t what we are used to but as long as they put a shift in they deserve support.

If someone offered me a job I couldn’t do for crazy money I’d take it. I’d try my best to do it but I’d likely come up short.

This applies to footballers. The clubs been far too big for many over last 3 years strikes me the new ownership are trying to get that right. Pritch from Spurs via Norwich, Evans 50 NI caps from Championship, the LB from Spurs, Doyle from City.

There’s some prestige there, yet people kicking off cos we haven’t signed players from League One who have remained in League One? I guarantee this Spurs lad will have Championship offers so if we lose out that’s not on the club, if we get him it’s magnificent. Will credit be given? Yeah, by the people who always give credit where due.
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Great post marra, not sure why some fans want to come on here and post that as soon as we go behind there will be booooooooooooooos. Surreal.
 
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Football Dinosaur said:
In my opinion they turn up to support the team. No safc supporter wants ti see the team lose. I just see people taking setbacks in different ways is all.
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So, if they take setbacks in that way then they spread that out and it becomes a big issue.

I’ve said so many times a lot of the poison starts on RTG and Twitter and I’ll bet half of them don’t go to games anyway, but they’ve bred the anger.

You can spot someone who hasn’t been game a mile off on a forum, as you can see the lads who don’t see off the ball work and such. You can only partially see that on TV and you can’t see at all if you don’t watch.

A lot of social media uses react to other peoples opinions and spread it, and as we have bigger support and engagement it’s more damaging to a clue like ours.

Its not just football of course. We’ve seen it with brexit and with parts of the region turning ‘blue’ in the elections.

Often the loudest voices don’t even know what they’re shouting about.
 
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Football Dinosaur said:
He's not played pre season so u think we do know that and If further signings haven't played they'll need catch up time for fitness. They'll also need to learn their team mates names!
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He has played pre-season, although not extensively. And I'm fairly certain Tottenham have a reasonable fitness regime for all players, not just first-teamers. more "if's" and "buts" I see......
 
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