I can’t go as well. Had a cortisone injection and steroids reduces immunity system so Covid even though I’m double jabbed puts me at high risk. Had to miss last Saturday’s (could at least stream that one) and tomorrow’s. So it’s back to trying to get a FM signal on the radio. I’ve moved slightly further into Wales so don’t know if I can get a signal as I’m still looking for a FM radio.
Okay let me get this straight. So your logic, is that because millions die from other diseases, there is no point trying to protect yourself against this one? ****ing madness mate Where's the relevance? I'm not gonna bother drying my hands when playing with these live electronics, because loads of people die in car crashes!
Yes mate all of these hundreds and thousands of scientific papers by people far smarter than you or I are instantly debunked because Supcon's colleague tested positive Just look at the numbers mate, they're going down with vaccinations, it's not rocket science.
I just saw the videos of the Cambridge 'educated' anti vaxxer and his videos 9 days before he died of covid or the young mother of 2 very young children who was too busy to have the vaccine and died of covid leaving her children without their mother. Sadly @BCFCRob you cannot educate pork.
Yeah I keep seeing these and they're so sad. I do like @oneforthebristolcity even if I get a bit excited but I'd hate for yet another person who just presumed they would be ok to end up seriously ill or dying. These people end up not believing it until they're literally on their deathbed.
One of my work colleagues is a 'militant' Anti-Vaxxer who believes that this is all a conspiracy to control the masses. He goes to the rallies in London and is very active on social media (I never respond to it it). I DO get people not wanting the jab because they're afraid of after-effects - I don't subscribe to that view, but I do UNDERSTAND their fears. However, I just don't get this 'conspiracy' stuff. Controlling the masses is one thing - but control them to do WHAT exactly? The economy has been brought to its knees already by people being sick, or pinged and not being able to go to work - our hospitality and travel sectors may never fully recover. Not only that, it would be a 8l00dy clever conspiracy to be able to reach across the entire globe, with independent countries that don't always like each other, all playing along - with China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Israel, the EU, the US, UK, all of South America etc etc all singing the same song - for what purpose? The only purpose that makes any sense, is to reduce the damage that the virus does to their respective populations and economies. I'm one of the biggest cynics when it comes to government - especially our own, but I simply cannot get my head around this being a ploy to control the masses. To totally fk the economy in order to make people scared to socialise or gather in large groups is absolutely crazy. Now, if it transpires that senior Tories - the likes of Rees-Mogg, or IDS, have large investments in AZ, Moderna and Pfizer - and the Covid testing companies we are all FORCED to use and pay for if we go abroad and are ENCOURAGED to use even if we don't, then this I CAN believe. This IS the type of thing that they would do - using their power in government to line their own pockets. However, as illegal and unethical that would be (and I hope if found to be true then the punishments will be HUGE) it still doesn't take away from the fact that we had a disease - a global pandemic - which was killing people, overloading our health services and needed to be tackled. In the absence of a simple antibiotic to pop which cures you if you get the virus, there HAD to be a vaccination programme. Brazil is a good example of what happens if you ignore it.
Exactly. These idiots, Laurence Fox and the like, keep pointing out ridiculous things like 'still think this isn't about control?...', without ever being able to point out what the actual point is and what the endgame is. As if the world is united and competent enough to even plan such a move. Our government can't organise a piss up in a brewery let alone pull something like this off. I also completely get people being worried about putting an unknown vaccine into their arm, that's totally fair. What I can't accept is spreading misinformation and propaganda based on no scientific fact at all, when an act like that could put naive people at very serious risk. And I'd include downplaying the seriousness of Covid as part of that.
I don't often sing this government's praises Rob, and I particularly detest Johnson, but even I have to admit that the Vaccine rollout programme has been managed quite well. Yes there are things that could have been done better; some of the vaccine stations were empty and others overloaded, but OVERALL the UK's vaccination campaign has been a huge success.
Ahh it's ok for you to deal out the insults!.....don't like it back up you though Oh and education from you.......don't think so somehow!!! Picking out isolated incidents is easy when you're looking for it.. we can all do that..
We can all go around with a full on space suit.....full on protection!! That's what the world needs to do full proof!!
Yes plenty of top scientists were telling us not too long ago how much better for us diesel was.......mmmm most people could see that was not the case when parked behind a dirty bus or truck......but top scientists should all be listened to,,,,,,,year right!!
That is choice mate......I don't live in any fear whatsoever regarding Covid, I really don't...Happy for the world to get on with it..Those that want to be protected, I respect, especially the vulnerable with health conditions and elderly making them as safe as possible ......those that don't have or want the vaccine...I also respect, it's their choice. This isn't going away any time soon , at some point, we all need to get back to normality, if it's allowed!!!
Oh I totally agree by the way. To be fair it's mainly the NHS and those supporting services that should get the praise, but I suppose the government should be praised for at least not outsourcing this bit to one of their mates. Can't stand them but I'm very bloody glad they got this bit absolutely right and will rightfully support that .
Mate, If someone said to you 30 years ago, the internet would takeover and the likes of Amazon, Facebook and Apple domination would be providing everything you need and to your doorstep anywhere around the world.....your questioning would be exactly the same......Don't underestimate power Countries & money, they are the reason for most if not all conflicts, economy changes etc.....even all this climate change hype.....it's big, no it's a massive power and money ploy!!
The NHS and supporting services certainly DO deserve praise, but the government recognised very early what needed to be done and secured the physical real estate sites for the vaccine manufacture and distribution. They also commissioned a body of scientists to fast-track the safety approval of the various jabs. They provided funding to AZ/Oxford and bulk-ordered the supplies up-front (risky, but it paid off) Well done Boris & co. Crikey, I sound like a Tory
Certainly power and money play their part, but even Amazon and the other huge companies you mentioned would collapse if nobody can work due to Covid! For any business to flourish you need customers. If the economy is crippled, lots of people will be skint, so they will not be able to afford to buy stuff. Ok, a comparative opportunist few may get rich, but there is only so much that they can buy. You need the population at large to have money to spend in order for your businesses to succeed. Amazon and Ebay etc were already growing fast before Covid. The High Street has been in decline for many years. Covid accelerated this, but didn't actually cause it. There are measures which local councils can take to slow the decline, by lowering rents, business rates, providing free parking etc, but they are choosing not to. One day they will wake up and smell the coffee when there is nothing left, but until then the Internet companies are filling the gaps left by the High Street traders. As I posted earlier, there are some who will have exploited the situation - and their inside knowledge of what regulations were coming - to make even more money. I mentioned Rees-Mogg because I have it on very good authority that as soon as the first lockdown was announced he got straight on the phone and instructed his Fund Manager to invest in the PPE and Pharmaceutical corporations. He (and others) probably took the opportunity to buy Amazon shares too. This behaviour is called 'Insider Dealing' - highly illegal - and if you or I did it we would be heavily fined and/or go to prison. It is NOT however, a conspiracy. It's just a few greedy slimy parasites making money out of a crisis.
Companies such as Apple, Amazon & Facebook have made record profits during this pandemic The likes of them will never struggle, plenty of money being printed cheap produce from the likes of China and alike..........I'm not sure the economy is crippled either of what I can see.......plus with the likes of people in this Country we still have plenty of assets they can exploit....property being one of them....... Covid or no Covid, makes no difference......the big companies will never go short.. I see the big energy companies have sympathy for those struggling in this pandemic by raising all their prices up in the Autumn.. do they care??
Rob, I take your point, but would add that in my office in the last 3 weeks we have had 3 people, all double jabbed test positive, and we had none before that, in 16 months. I do question what anyone (including the so called "experts") really know about this, over the last month the infections have gone through the roof, against the backdrop of more of the population getting one or both jabs. The reason that the vaccine was deemed so important, and those that might have been on the fence (myself included) about having it was the belief/promise that it lowered the risk of getting it, and perhaps the severity. The former of those is not borne out by recent stats
