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New Captain - Corry Evans - BBC Reporting

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Southern A, Aug 4, 2021.

  1. John Wick

    John Wick Well-Known Member

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    That's why it helps to have either a butcher or a butchers relation on the committee. lol
     
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  2. Oliver's Army

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    Spot on with this imo. If people don't understand something it's automatically bad.
     
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  3. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    Well at least we know Flanagan won't take them to Mcdonalds or anywhere else that means they could put some weight on then
     
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  4. Southern A

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    FWIW I understand the decision and the merits / benefits of it, and I fully back LJ and whoever was involved in this decision to put it in place if they judge it to be right.

    Personally I don't agree with it - as I think a "leadership group" should be something that forms organically rather than through bestowing it on people. Gooch and Flanagan, as senior members, should feel empowered to step up and lead as needed. If they don't, that's part of a wider issue within the group.

    Like I say though, its obvious LJ has put a lot of thought into this. So he has his reasons and must think it will work, so good on him.

    At the end of the day none of us should give a **** if the team are winning games and not fighting each other on the pitch.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Otherwise known as a clique <laugh>

    Johnson is obviously trusted by these players otherwise they'd turn the jobs down, he must trust them to accept their various responsibilities. .

    Surely that's better than the situation whereby di Canio asked the players to train, work, behave better and they went crying to the club.

    We've had all this shyte for years and haven't had a decent captain during our plummet from the PL.

    Surely there has to be changes or we'll just keep going down the Parkinson/McGeady road for ever and ever.
     
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  6. Southern A

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    Decent points.
     
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  7. Teessidemackem

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  8. Smug in Boots

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  9. Draig

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    I made it 3 for, 3 against and one neutral (him normally being against a new player being made the team captain but then brought up Cana - see quote below).

    Yes, the Echo went with the most controversial of the quotes but most newspapers do that, don't they?

    'Don’t normally agree with new signings getting made captain straight away but look what happened with Lorik Cana.'
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    You're counting 2 innocuous jokes as negative?

    @VivaLaLads: Walk into the changing room and it'll be like the captain Morgan advert, Captain, Captain, Captain, Captain, Captain.

    @GilesMooney: We have more captains than full backs.
     
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  11. BackO'TheNet

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    Great idea.

    Sharing / spreading responsibilities amongst a group pays dividends.

    If you've been within a management experience, you'll know fine well that the more people you have on 'the shop floor' (those who are actually doing the physical graft) represent a voice for the rest.......you then see all the gripes/complaints/suggestions are looked at as more valid, without anyone being singled out as trouble makers, etc.

    Good move.
     
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  12. Confucius

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    Corporate spiel for it is "collaboration". Its the in thing right now, a group of people rather than one, using their differing experience, knowledge and talent to achieve the same end result
     
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  13. Smug in Boots

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    Hopefully not ....
     
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  14. Draig

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    One points out that having so many captains is absurd and the other points out the absurdity of appointing so many captains when you have such a bare squad, so they aren't endorsing the concept are they?!
     
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  15. Confucius

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    :emoticon-0102-bigsm Not the same as last season mate
    Poorly worded for a football reference, I suppose
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    OK mate, you win <doh>
     
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  17. Draig

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    What % of shop floor staff would you recommend?

    Transfermarket lists us as having 20 players in our squad and we now have 6 captains, so that gives 30% representation.
     
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    "We've always done it this way, so we cannot possibly consider doing it any other way"
     
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  19. BackO'TheNet

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    Some large workforces only have a couple of Formen who are sometimes 'up the bosses arse'.....but then only have one Shop Steward who can only take the word of the discriminated/offended employee.

    SAFC's player's squad staff is only small in comparison, however, if a quarter, or third of the players are given captain/leader roles, then that can only be a positive move.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

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    We haven't had a captain for years.

    It was all too much for Power who didn't have the command ...

    ... shouting and pointing doesn't make you a captain.

    Perhaps having different players, with different responsibilities, is a better way.

    In any case O'Nien is just 'trainee team captain' for when Evans becomes part of the backroom staff.
     
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