Summer transfer rumours

[Smug in Boots]

Whilst I believe that the regime change will be good in the long run

I don't see any reason why we can't question what is happening at the moment.

We are very wafer thin as a squad particularly in certain positions. If I am honest I expected us to be in a stronger position. The constant harping of one forum versus another is because there is frustration around. We are sick of being below where we believe we should be (notice I said believe not deserve)

Not at all mate, perfectly right.

What's daft is people saying we're skint, claiming there's no difference to Donald's reign or that we're not actually trying to sign players.

I don't see any reason why we can't question what these people are saying.

 

[Bigmackem]

So you'll have seen the new pitch at the sol? Massive renovations within the AOL offices and sporting areas ? The amount of new staff brought in to work on operational aspects ?

It's comprehensive. Just because the bricks and mortar from the outside look the same it doesn't tell half the story. A considerable amount of investment has been made to significantly bring Safc up to scratch.

Now they just need to close on the deals.

It was apparent from day one or even prior to day one that we were going to see a massive change in how the club was going to be run from totally unprofessional and slapdash to a plan to build an accountable infrastructure to manage our club in the way we wanted due to the Takeover . I am totally supportive of the new regime and their philosophy and principles , in the past we have management teams who were panicked in to making lots and lots of financial mistakes due to in some cases just to appease the supporters . The new management style will get things right on the recruitment of players I am sure but we have to remain patient and be as supportive of the players we have in the team currently and any new signings that we manage to bring to the club . Come on folks sing your hearts out for the lads !!!

 

[Mackem78]

Just a thought. Are emergency loans just for keepers?

If not, get a couple of fullbacks in whilst we work on getting the permanent deals over the line.

 

[King Kareoke]

Not at all mate, perfectly right.

What's daft is people saying we're skint, claiming there's no difference to Donald's reign or that we're trying to sign players.

I don't see any reason why we can't question what these people are saying.

Agree with that - I actually would be surprised if we were spending huge amounts. As Grumpy says we are limited under the rules. Still would have liked a bit more activity but I will be there on Saturday so I am still daft!!!

 

[Mackem 10.1]

Of course - but we are unable to put out a first eleven including weaknesses in the defence which were exactly what cost us promotion. There’s some evidence that the haggling is not addressing our weaknesses just by looking at the team sheet. I’m not pissing the bed over it and I want us to get better players ultimately but i think it’s fair to say they haven’t got the balance right at this point.

We can out a very good first 11 for this division, we have players who can play fullback till we get the right players in. We def need to strengthen though as long as they are the right players

 

[Smug in Boots]

Just a thought. Are emergency loans just for keepers?

If not, get a couple of fullbacks in whilst we work on getting the permanent deals over the line.

There's no chance of that mate.

We have O'Nien, Flanagan, Winchester, Younger, etc, who can all play full back.

Good ide though

 

[Magnus]

I can only post what I read
I’ll look for proof if I can find it

I don’t know it could be a hoax

I don't think it's true mate, and hope it's not, pretty confident he'll be in a Sunderland top soon, be abit gutted if he's not

 

[Vincemac]

I don't think it's true mate, and hope it's not, pretty confident he'll be in a Sunderland top soon, be abit gutted if he's not

Cheers mate

 

[Pure River Slut]

Would you rather we didn't?

You claimed our haggling is the problem, there's no evidence for that. It may be that a certain player doesn't want to come to Sunderland, or his club want clauses we'd be stupid to accept, or he's asking for a guaranteed starting place, etc.

Nothing to do with haggling at all.

Actually I think it’s healthy we are scrutinising the transfers more. It’s a good thing generally, I like we have a plan and a system jot just any old free transfer, but not signing players in crucial positions and gaps prior to the season isn’t good at all.

 

[King Kareoke]

I don't think it's true mate, and hope it's not, pretty confident he'll be in a Sunderland top soon, be abit gutted if he's not

Cheers - can you imagine if he goes 10 games without a goal after all this fuss - you know it's the Sunderland way

 

[Football Dinosaur]

Just a thought. Are emergency loans just for keepers?

If not, get a couple of fullbacks in whilst we work on getting the permanent deals over the line.

Sadly not. Even league one clubs are expected to have at least one specialist full back on each side in their squad so no emergency loans there.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Actually I think it’s healthy we are scrutinising the transfers more. It’s a good thing generally, I like we have a plan and a system jot just any old free transfer, but not signing players in crucial positions and gaps prior to the season isn’t good at all.

But the season hasn't started ...

... and the window hasn't closed.

 

[Magnus]

Cheers - can you imagine if he goes 10 games without a goal after all this fuss - you know it's the Sunderland way

If he's able to be in the squad Saturday, got feeling he's coming of the bench to score the winner

 

[Pure River Slut]

We can out a very good first 11 for this division, we have players who can play fullback till we get the right players in. We def need to strengthen though as long as they are the right players

But it’s far from ideal. Square pegs in round holes at the back arguably cost us promotion the end of last year, equally having costly substandard ones like Grigg AOB or McLaughlin. So we need to get the balance right. I’m not sure we have so far, but hopefully we will be happy by the end of the window and we reflect on mistakes made.

 

[Pure River Slut]

But the season hasn't started ...

... and the window hasn't closed.

Well drilled defensive units matter.
So do you feel ok about things ? Or is it as I say far from ideal ?

 

[Smug in Boots]

Well drilled defensive units matter.
So do you feel ok about things ? Or is it as I say far from ideal ?

Neither of those extremes tbh ...

... I want players in but not ones we hope will fit only to find out they don't.

McFadzean had plenty of time to become part of a well drilled defensive unit but never did ...

.... the last thing we need is more like him, especially if we don't 'haggle' and end up paying them for being shyte over the next three years.

What it boils down to is whether you trust the people at the club and think they know better than you ... or you don't.

 

[Football Dinosaur]

Sadly there are 2 sides of this discussion who are bith entranched in their positions. Its stifling one of the main purposes of a football forum, Debate. I just hope when the window is closed we can come together as a fan base and get behind what I hope will be a winning team.

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[Smug in Boots]

Sadly there are 2 sides of this discussion who are bith entranched in their positions.

Its stifling one of the main purposes of a football forum, Debate. I just hope when the window is closed we can come together as a fan base and get behind what I hope will be a winning team.

No it's not at all, people are debating quite happily.

Just because you can't persuade people to agree it doesn't mean they're entrenched ...

... perhaps your argument just isn't convincing.

The fan base is very much together as far as I'm concerned, I'll get behind the team whatever happens.

 

[Robref62]

I've just had a quick look at the Wigan 20 man squad. There's absolutely nothing to be afraid of there imo. Of their new players I'm not sure I'd be too excited if we'd signed them . Respect them but we'll finish above them.

 

[Smug in Boots]

It was apparent from day one or even prior to day one that we were going to see a massive change in how the club was going to be run from totally unprofessional and slapdash to a plan to build an accountable infrastructure to manage our club in the way we wanted due to the Takeover . I am totally supportive of the new regime and their philosophy and principles , in the past we have management teams who were panicked in to making lots and lots of financial mistakes due to in some cases just to appease the supporters . The new management style will get things right on the recruitment of players I am sure but we have to remain patient and be as supportive of the players we have in the team currently and any new signings that we manage to bring to the club . Come on folks sing your hearts out for the lads !!!

I've only highlighted those parts I agree with ...