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Why Alain Rolland?

Discussion in 'International Rugby Union' started by NSIS, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. Aircrafted consulate.

    Aircrafted consulate. Member

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    Can people not here not read anything more than two lines.... Ye all moaning about spearing... dropping is a red card offence too Read the ****ing memo ****s.
     
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  2. Aircrafted consulate.

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    I'd love to go out and ****ing tackle ye, and drop ye on your ****ing neck, morons..
     
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  3. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

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    So how many times have you seen a red card for a tackle like that?

    Who?
     
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  4. Black Cat Kiwi

    Black Cat Kiwi Well-Known Member

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    <ok><ok><ok>

    Not just the memo BUT the rules!!!!

    My post for goodness sake is straight from the IRB rule book via their press conference on Sunday.
    Some on here obviously can't read or choose to disagree with the facts.
    FFS if you don't believe my quote look it up,

    - The lifted player is dropped to the ground from a height with no regard to the player&#8217;s safety (red card offence)


    In closing some might to note he has been given 3 weeks when the guidelines indicate 6 minimum due to:

    .....Warburton admitted the offence, the statement added, and had avoided a more lengthy ban because of mitigating circumstances, including his "outstanding character, disciplinary record and remorse". http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/5793154/IRB-defends-red-carding-of-Wales-captain
     
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  5. Black Cat Kiwi

    Black Cat Kiwi Well-Known Member

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    NowsufferingMOREinSpain.

    Sorry to dispel your conspiracy theory, but you’ll be disappointed to learn that Craig Joubert will refereeing the World Cup final. To state that “We also know that Rolland desperately wants the final” is rather immature as I can’t name ANY professional referee that wouldn’t want to officiate at the very highest level.
     
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  6. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Come off it, pal. Rolland's hand went up faster than an eager schoolboy. If he hadn't been so desperate to appease, he might have just given himself a little time to think logically, and possibly consult, before making such a World Cup changing decision.

    By the way, I've never had a "conspiracy theory", as you put it. If you care to READ the OP, you will see that I asked the question, why were the IRB stupid enough to lay themselves open to any hint of bias, by appointing Rolland to officiate that game, when he is half French, himself?
     
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  7. Badgers Assemble

    Badgers Assemble Well-Known Member

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    If the IRB say it should be a red card then they should be constant with their decisions, there have been other incidents like this in the world cup non of which have led to a red card. The one in the Fiji game was even worse. If the refs had regularly been giving reds for spear tackles then there wouldn't have been the same reaction <ok>
     
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  8. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, you've got a point. I probably should have phrased it better. It wasn't just the decision itself I thought was totally wrong, it was the unseemly haste with which it was made that led me say what I did at the time.
     
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  9. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    Such eloquence, and penetrating insight into the game. You should be a Journo. Have you tried calling The Sunday Sport and offering them the benefit of your wisdom?
     
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  10. peeps1972

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    Did you miss kahui picking up and dumping of quade cooper in the first half which seemed to go unnoticed by referee and commentators!

    Also how did franks escape a blatant shoulder barge into the back of roncero in the quarters!
     
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  11. PGFWhite

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    I am still waiting for examples of players sent off for a similair tackle.
     
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  12. Badgers Assemble

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    This is the point, the decisions need to be constant, either give everyone a red or no one <ok>
     
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  13. aj1927

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    Yes Alain Rolland(the ref) didn't help at all and despite putting us at a dis-advantage for over 60 minutes,He wasn't the one who missed 3 penalties and a conversion,He wasn't the one who made Mike Philips touch down in the corner when he could of got a lot closer to the posts( maybe if Mike hadn't been pointing to the ground and mocking the french player he would of).
    As proud and Gutted as i am the harsh reality is Wales got beat by France and South Africa and in both games it was Welsh mistakes that cost us.
    In the 2005 and 2008 grand slam we hardly missed a kick, if this had been replicated in the world cup then we would be World Cup Finalist with or without Sam Warburton.
     
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  14. Black Cat Kiwi

    Black Cat Kiwi Well-Known Member

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    :emoticon-0150-hands Fair play to you as I now understand what you meant.

    IMO the two things I hate about Union are:
    1) The out of touch fools at the IRB
    2) The ability of ALL referees to differ in their application (or as the IRB call it, interpretations"!) thus resulting in bewildering decisions.

    I personally know one ex-international referee who gave the game away due to what he called the inconsistency of the review process they undergo after each series/tournament.

    It would seem therefore that if the referees can’t agree between themselves what chance have they on the pitch!
     
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  15. NSIS

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    Consistency is what's needed, but doesn't seem to be happening. I guess it's all down to interpretation. I just think Rolland didn't give himself any time to evaluate, and make a rational decision. Had he consulted, and then still come to the same decision, I would still think he was wrong - but, at least I would respect the way he handled the situation.
    The IRB haven't got a patch on the RFU when it comes to indecision, and general buffoonery. I despair for the future of the game in England with this bunch of politically motivated clowns in charge.
    Good luck for the final - at least you deserve to be there <ok>
     
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  16. swimaway

    swimaway Well-Known Member

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    The only one I can think of, but the player holds him all the way and drives him down with intent (funnily enough getting a 3 week ban also).... no prizes for guessing who the ref is???

    [video=youtube;o_OOKEbRzGQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_OOKEbRzGQ[/video]
     
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