But in European competition BAB this should be our minimum expectation.... its the expectation (not hope) of the Germans, Italians, Dutch etc.... and not only the people but their Football Associations...the World Cup is a whole different level..Not being funny but this is the first final in a major competition we have reached in 55 years .. yes 55 years .. we have had the so called golden generation and didn't achieve what this manager and players did. He himself is young in terms of being a manager and as such will be learning.. yes we all wanted us to go for it .. and we do have talent a plenty .. but that talent has to be moulded into a team and a unit .. something which Southgate has done impressively during this tournament. He deserves his chance to go one further and with this experience behind him who's to say he won't.. far too early to be thinking of changing the manager who has achieved something only one other manager has achieved in our history !