While we know we're going through before finishing all our games![]()
Yep.
Plus Wales finishing 2nd and playing Denmark. We could win group and play Germany.
Seems fair

While we know we're going through before finishing all our games![]()

Get what you are saying and there aren’t league tables upto u13s I thinkAgree with a lot of that, particularly the bit about prioritising physical attributes over technical - the Shaun Wright Phillips effect. I quite often state my belief that Iniesta wouldn't have made it through an English academy in the mid 00's and would have been written off as too small/lightweight. Hoping it's started to change in recent years but I won't yet hold my breath.
I disagree about we don't coach children to win though. Infact I think too much emphasis being on winning is part of the problem. It means coaches are too tempted to bring on the lad who's far more physically developed and can bully others and/or outrun them with no technical skill required.
I'd go as far as saying that below certain age groups that they shouldn't keep league tables. It should be about honing skills when really young, not an obsession about winning. That can come later in life and isn't really important at that age imo.
Get what you are saying and there aren’t league tables upto u13s I think
sorry for not making clear I didn’t mean in football
I mean more in general
The general attitude of sports day is
It not the winning or losing it’s the taking part etc
the Australians have the perfect mindset to me and it’s where we don’t seem to be able to cope
for me all sport should be a battle even children but they need to be taught how to win correctly
we don’t in this country drives me potty
I will rant all night so going to leave it
still no idea if I have clarified but it’s the treating winning as an important part of the game and winning in the right manner if that makes sense lol

I knowThat's a bit of a myth tbh Bumps. We'll hear stories of Sports Days but most schools (prior to Covid) have team sports which are played in competitions between a cluster of schools e.g. football, cricket, netball etc. with leagues. Trust me, they play to win. The teacher assigned to managing them (usually the PE coordinator) takes it as a matter of pride, you should listen to the **** they give 10/11 year olds from the touchline
The sports day is a one off sunny summer's day event, winding down the end of the year. Nobody takes that seriously, it's just a bit of a laugh for kids/parents and teachers to have a day off. It's nowhere near a serious sporting event.
Gay as ****.Emotional scenes in Amsterdam as Goran Pandev is substituted in his fInal game for North Macdeonia. His team-mates form a guard of honour to clap him off.
All the Netherlands players and all the fans in the ground are clapping Pandev who looks tearful as the curtain comes down on his international career at the age of 37.
Gay as ****.
If I played for Holland, I’d have snapped the **** in half while he was waving to his daughter in the stands.
Save that **** for after the game.
It's weird that you can have one group with Austria, Ukraine, Macedonia and another with Denmark, Finland, Russia but then lump Germany, France, Portugal in the same group.
And Hungary too. A team who won their group in the last Euros, finishing above the eventual winners Portugal in the process. If I was Hungarian I'd be looking at that group and crying, they're a good team but Jeez that's harsh.
We've qualified already? That bastard Southgate should be sacked Kane should be dropped. Oh **** it beat them all on the soles of their feet.Yeah. Think it'd need a Scotland win while we lose and a goal swing of 3?
I think the most important thing is too ignore the boo boys and stay calm.I'm hoping that they'll be raring to go to get it out their system.
A fast start is vital imo. Score in the first 20 and think we'll win relatively comfortably. Fail to and I think it'll be a long night.
Could have done this sooner
The crowd capacity at Wembley will be increased to more than 60,000 for the semi-finals and final of Euro 2020, says the UK government.
It means the stadium will be at 75% capacity for the games.