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suarez v evra

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by JeezonTorst, Oct 15, 2011.

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  1. Bolton4Europe

    Bolton4Europe Active Member

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    It's racist when used to offend someone. Get with it you deluded ****er!
     
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    So in other words its not the actual word that is racist but the context it is used?
     
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  4. terrifictraore

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    I have and you have not given an unqualified answer.

    Answer it with a yes or no.
     
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  5. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

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    IMO ,

    Suarez will be found not guilty as there is no definitive evidence to prove he said anythin.
    Evra wont be banned either as they wont be able to prove Suarez didnt say anything
     
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  6. Bolton4Europe

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    What are you trying to say? Suarez said '******' in a nice way, as American black people do?
     
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  7. terrifictraore

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    What about a white person who saying the same to a black friend?
     
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    Strange how no mancs are offended when a certain poster is called "a thick Irish ****" etc.

    All forms of racism are disgusting and if its 'proven' that Saurez did call Evra the n word he should be made an example of by the FA.

    If Evra's racial abuse claims are 'proven' to be unfounded he should be banned for trying to destroy the career of a fellow pro,because make no mistake he will be targeted by every black player hes up against from now on.
     
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  9. terrifictraore

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    No but the poster earlier tried to educate you into seeing that it is not the word that is racist but the context it is said in, unfortunately you failed to grasp this basic concept.
     
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  10. Foredeckdave

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    I hope that both clubs stay out of this matter and leave it between Suarez and Evra or it could get even nastier than it already appears to be.
     
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  12. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    I agree.

    I dont think i ever called kpr an irish twat though.
     
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  13. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Well hes a racist hypocrite if thats the case.
     
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  14. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    In response to your other question, yes I would. For the exact reasons I explained.
     
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  15. Zingy

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    The word Spastic used to be an official term for the condition cerebral palsy, but because it was often used out of context such as play ground bullying towards people who didn't suffer from the condition it then became better known as a form of insult.

    The same with the word '******' which is derived from the latin meaning of black. Before it was widely used as a racist attack on the black people it was an innocent term, hence the dog in the Dam Busters being called ****** because the dog was black, this was during a time when the word was primarily associated to the colour and not the race in the UK.

    The meaning of the word is completely different to how it was years ago as is the word gay, when I first learnt the meaning of the words 'gay' and '******' it certainly wasn't happy or black. As soon as a person directs this term towards someone else with malicious intent then it is wrong, it's the same as the word 'Monkey" which is also used as a racist remark. But when you call your child a 'little monkey' it is completely harmless.

    There is no reason a player should use any racist remark on the field, Saurez needs to sort himself out if the allegations are true.
     
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  16. Bolton4Europe

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    Are you ****ing ******ed??? I never said that one bit you ****ing ******!

    At a football match, some people make JOKES to the players. I doubt that he actually thinks Carroll is a gyspy, and that's probably the first time he has said it. Carroll probably laughing secretly.
     
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  17. terrifictraore

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    Why not, it shouldn't be a problem as Irish isn't a race according to you.
     
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  18. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    I am sure you know TT is talking out of his arse but B4E stated that its in a different context when a black man called his friend the N word to when a white man says it.

    He also said United fans singing Carroll is a gypsie wasnt racist.
     
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  19. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    I did'nt mean you said it UIR,but many Utd fans have(or similar things)when theres Irish lads on both our boards.
     
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  20. terrifictraore

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    So you really think it is not racist to say pakinstanis are lesser people than you/us?
     
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