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Bit annoyed that it looks like I’ll be in the boneyard before I ever get the jet pack and hover car I was promised. I feel cheated tbh

Tbph I've been thinking about giving up driving for a few years now, especially as I don't enjoy it anymore. So time all this comes in I'll either have given up driving or be in the boneyard with you. As for the jet packs, there's absolutely no way, anyone is ever going to let me near one of them. <laugh>
 
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Yeah that’s an issue, converting street lamps into charge points will assist but not remove it.

One of the houses which I recently bought, done up and sold was a 1930’s 3 bedroom bay fronted terrace. I did considered putting a drop curb in and turning the front garden into off road parking, as it would have been useful for the skips I had and then a selling feature. Unfortunately, one of only 4 street lamps for the road was apparently too close to get permission for the dropped curb.
A long winded story to say that out of a road with 100+ houses it has 4 street lights.
 
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One of the houses which I recently bought, done up and sold was a 1930’s 3 bedroom bay fronted terrace. I did considered putting a drop curb in and turning the front garden into off road parking, as it would have useful for the skips I had and then a selling feature. Unfortunately, one of only 4 street lamps for the road was apparently to close to get permission for the dropped curb.
A long winded story to say that out of a road with 100+ houses it has 4 street lights.
Yeah it’s limited, some areas it’ll be of more use than others, it’s also limited to relatively slow charge, a max of circa 7KW iirc. The pilot schemes have been virtually exclusively in London.

By the time the infrastructure obstacles are over largely overcome the entire model of car ownership and personal car usage in major cities is liable to completely change anyway, with the arrival of autonomous vehicles.

Need a car to leave the city for the day or a trip away, just press a few buttons on an app, and book a motor to turn up when you want it and for it to take you wherever you need to go for whatever length of time, paid by mileage / time units. All dispatched from some brownfield or underground storage facility. Head **** stuff.
 
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Yeah it’s limited, some areas it’ll be of more use than others, it’s also limited to relatively slow charge, a max of circa 7KW iirc. The pilot schemes have been virtually exclusively in London.

By the time the infrastructure obstacles are over largely overcome the entire model of car ownership and personal car usage in major cities is liable to completely change anyway, with the arrival of autonomous vehicles.

Need a car to leave the city for the day or a trip away, just press a few buttons on an app, and book a motor to turn up when you want it and for it to take you wherever you need to go for whatever length of time, paid by mileage / time units. All dispatched from some brownfield or underground storage facility. Head **** stuff.

I wonder which company will be the first to offer EV charging as part of the employment package?
 
From a personal pov although technically i'm exactly the type of driver who should be using an electric car , most journeys less than 10 miles , auto driver ,have offload parking for at least 3 cars i haven't seriously considered it . The main reasons being my 11 year old Polo is happily tootling around still but the clincher is the extra height off the griund they all seem to have to fit the batteries in car "floor" . That extra height would make putting my chair in the car more difficult and possibly more much more difficult .
 
I do a lot of inner city driving, so slow speeds etc. Hybrid is perfect for me. Great to drive electric, but nice peace of mind knowing that you have a tank of petrol to fall back on.
Costs me about £1.50 to fully charge, and I get about 40 miles out of it.

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I do a lot of inner city driving, so slow speeds etc. Hybrid is perfect for me. Great to drive electric, but nice peace of mind knowing that you have a tank of petrol to fall back on.
Costs me about £1.50 to fully charge, and I get about 40 miles out of it.

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Will we still be able to sell new Hybrids after 2030?

If so that would solve all the problems I spoke about.
 
Will we still be able to sell new Hybrids after 2030?

If so that would solve all the problems I spoke about.
I think they are banned from 2030.
I’m hoping that by that time, the infrastructure will have improved.
As an aside, I’m going to Center Parcs in a few weeks. No EV charge points at all! I was really surprised at this. I thought they would have been on board with ‘going green’.
Reckon I’ll flick onto sport mode and mow some squirrels down <laugh>
That’ll teach em.
 
Why are there thousands of bobble heads marching in London about Lockdown?

They’ve literally got there by fully open public transport, walked past open pubs, restaurants, shops and cinemas to march about ending lockdown? It’s like they enjoyed being ‘freedom warriors’ and don’t want it to end.

Set of absolute ****s.
 
Why are there thousands of bobble heads marching in London about Lockdown?

They’ve literally got there by fully open public transport, walked past open pubs, restaurants, shops and cinemas to march about ending lockdown? It’s like they enjoyed being ‘freedom warriors’ and don’t want it to end.

Set of absolute ****s.

Thought it was a kill the bill demo due today
 
Why are there thousands of bobble heads marching in London about Lockdown?

They’ve literally got there by fully open public transport, walked past open pubs, restaurants, shops and cinemas to march about ending lockdown? It’s like they enjoyed being ‘freedom warriors’ and don’t want it to end.

Set of absolute ****s.

Doesn't effect you does it.......good on em I say......fresh air instead of talking about electric cars for the sake of it.
 
and how are people going to charge up at home, when some people have to park streets away to park a vehicle, especially in permit parking areas, that don't allocate you a space, but several streets to park in?

what happens with people that live in tower blocks?

are we seriously going to litter every street and house with charging points, when are local authorities going to start installing them?

you state there are queues at petrol stations, it's certainly no where near the same as every car needing a 30 minute charge, plus fast charging shortens battery life.

yeah we all know @PINKIE can park his SUV planet destroyer outside his house, but not everyone is Pinkie otherwise we'd all be fooked.

and you are wrong, most people won't be able to charge up at home, unless you are also a Pinkie. They will be forced on to public transport, creating the debate that I saw on TV, the have and the have nots.

if there are charging points in the kerbs, how will this work, are we going to start having allocated parking for every car owner in the UK, I don't think so.

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I already answered most of that.

84% of drivers have off street parking. The rest will have to fill up as they do now when passing a charging point, when they're doing their weekly shop or just not get an electric car.
 
I already answered most of that.

84% of drivers have off street parking. The rest will have to fill up as they do now when passing a charging point, when they're doing their weekly shop or just not get an electric car.

I don't agree with that figure, because I believe it includes people who don't have vehicles, so that could be the elderly in residential homes/flats (as an example), where there is off street parking for a limited number of vehicles, so it inflates the figure per household. I believe the reality to be 24%-25% of househoulds do not have off street parking, that equates to over 6.5 million vehicles. Throwing a different light on to the reality.

As you state or don't get a vehicle, which is the government aim, and an I'm alright Jack mentality.

Also a lot of househoulds have two vehicles, the second vehicle being fully entitled to park on the street, but could be taking up a charging point on the street, rather than needing it, but just so they can park. Preventing a vehicle that does need charging from using it. I bet this point has not even been considered in the planning.

The streets are going to look awful with charging points littered everywhere.
 
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