Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
ELLERS said:
The one thing I will agree with is that we were naive thinking the EU would act like partners rather than hostile muppets. Look how they have acted/over reacted to things. Vaccine... trying to trigger article 16. Jersey fishing licences... threatening to cut off the power. Jersey now... threatening financial services. One day you and others may wise up. Rather than make yourself look stupid, look at how the EU have been acting. Threat after threat after threat. But as I said there is no point trying to discuss this with you.
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You could discuss it with me. You’d only go and post a dozen times about ham sandwiches being confiscated rather than the real economic and social consequences of the **** deal rushed through to placate England’s millions of flag-molesting morons though.
 
Stroller said:
Strange, isn't it, that whenever some entirely inevitable and predictable negative consequence of Brexit occurs, it's put down to the EU 'acting like twats'?
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What do you know? Your the fella who thought Starmer was good! <laugh> You should give up on politics Stroller because you are always wrong. Rather than keep moaning at the UK have a look back at that BBC program 'Inside Europe' where all those nice EU people said they would use Ireland against us to f22k us over.
 
West WindsR said:
You could discuss it with me. You’d only go and post a dozen times about ham sandwiches being confiscated rather than the real economic and social consequences of the **** deal rushed through to placate England’s millions of flag-molesting morons though.
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eer we are actually doing okay. Go away and come back when you know what you are talking about.
 
Maybe you should post some positive articles from the 'Un-Independent' or the 'Guardian'... actually 'The New European' is good as well.
 
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West WindsR said:
You’ve gone proper ‘kipper.
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Mate you post your silly project fear stuff and I will post the facts. I posted a list from last week debunking all the project fear stuff. Agree there will be 'Bumpy times' but we were told the country would collapse... guess what, it hasn't and we are doing okey.
 
ELLERS said:
Mate you post your silly project fear stuff and I will post the facts. I posted a list from last week debunking all the project fear stuff. Agree there will be 'Bumpy times' but we were told the country would collapse... guess what, it hasn't and we are doing okey.
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Yeah I saw that. It was laughable.
 
ELLERS said:
<laugh> The first line says it all 'Alarming stories'... that's what they are, stories. A small incident blown up. What about all those ex pats being forced out of Spain? Funny how the Guardian doesn't mention that? You produce 'The Guardian' <doh> embarrassing as me showing you an Express headline. Desperate mate.
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You suggested posting a Guardian story. Brits abroad being treated as a third country and being surprised because we won the war really isn’t equivalent. It’s getting increasingly difficult not to call you a stupid ****.
 
West WindsR said:
Yeah I saw that. It was laughable.
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That's fine. So you tell us what is not correct? I await your expert answer.
Five million EU citizens apply to settle in UK
Visa-free touring possible in 17 EU countries post-Brexit, says Dowden
Scottish salmon farmers' first quarter sales to EU up by 74%
Non-EU imports outpace goods from EU
Exports to Europe return to pre-Brexit levels
UK economy powers ahead
Strong Growth in March Shows U.K. Economy Headed for Swift Recovery
 
West WindsR said:
You suggested posting a Guardian story. Brits abroad being treated as a third country and being surprised because we won the war really isn’t equivalent. It’s getting increasingly difficult not to call you a stupid ****.
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Well you seem to think I'm a stupid **** just answer the question. the post you said was 'laughable'. I await.
 
ELLERS said:
That's fine. So you tell us what is not correct? I await your expert answer.
Five million EU citizens apply to settle in UK
Visa-free touring possible in 17 EU countries post-Brexit, says Dowden
Scottish salmon farmers' first quarter sales to EU up by 74%
Non-EU imports outpace goods from EU
Exports to Europe return to pre-Brexit levels
UK economy powers ahead
Strong Growth in March Shows U.K. Economy Headed for Swift Recovery
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I didn’t say it wasn’t correct. Much of it probably is albeit in need of a bit of evaluation as most Brexit cheer stories are. It’s you copy and pasting a series of headlines when you’re completely incapable of actually discussing anything to do with Brexit that doesn’t entail wrapping yourself in a flag with the rest of the weirdos that is laughable.
 
West WindsR said:
I didn’t say it wasn’t correct. Much of it probably is albeit in need of a bit of evaluation as most Brexit cheer stories are. It’s you copy and pasting a series of headlines when you’re completely incapable of actually discussing anything to do with Brexit that doesn’t entail wrapping yourself in a flag with the rest of the weirdos that is laughable.
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So basically you have once again talked bo22ox, tried to sound smart, mock someone and made your smug self look a tw2t.
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ELLERS said:
So basically you have once again talked bo22ox, tried to sound smart, mock someone and made your smug self look a tw2t.
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Actually, no. Let’s take your salmon headline for example. A fine headline you’ve probably seen on Twitter. Read the actual article for 30 seconds and while volumes are up, which is no doubt good, the value per tonne is heavily reduced as a consequence of the delays caused by Brexit. The exporters are having to contend with millions in totally unnecessary extra costs to shift that tonnage.

The headline is great though and you only really care about the headline so that’s fine.
 


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An excoriating interview given by Lord Grade on dishonesty and cover ups in BBC journalism in light of the Bashir frauds and subsequent BBC inhouse investigation "clearing" him.

"We are never wrong" is the only BBC response given to criticism, and the culture is rotten according to Grade.

Now there's a ****ing surprise.
 
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Penny Mordaunt Fact Check: Who Funds Angela Rayner?



Penny Mordaunt’s mauling of Angela Rayner in the Commons yesterday afternoon took Westminster by storm, with both Rayner and Mordaunt even trending on Twitter. Given it was so watched, Guido thought a fact check of one of Mordaunt’s main claims was in order:

“If you were to take every single MP she’s made an allegation about this afternoon, and you were to look at all the political donations they have received since the pandemic started (since January 2020), if you were to add them all up; if you were to double them – no, Mr Speaker, if you were to quadruple them – you would still just about match what the hon. Lady herself has received in the same time period.”

Referring back to Ange’s speech, she named the PM, the Home Secretary, the Health Secretary and Lord Lister, whose total declared takings since January 2020 benchmark amounted to just £4,660 for Boris and £55,586 for Hancock. Surprisingly, Priti doesn’t have a single register of interest entry…

Rayner’s coffers on the other hand have been working overtime. Since January 2020 Angie has received:

  • 21 January: £50,000 from Waheed Ali
  • 22 January: £1,683.21 from GMB
  • 22 January: £47,227.58 from GMB
  • 26 January: £1,000 from Simeon Honore
  • 30 January: £25,000 from GMB
  • 31 January: £10,000 from Rajesh Agrawal
  • 4 February: £10,000 from USDAW
  • 11 February: £25,000 from CWU
  • 25 February: £2,000 from Mohammed Imran
  • 4 March: £25,000 from Trevor Chinn
  • 5 March: £10,000 from Intro Developments Ltd
  • 5 March: £25,000 from Martin Taylor
  • 12 March: £2,500 from Simeon Honore
That’s a whopping £234,410.79, and – as Penny pointed out – the same as four times the total takings of the government figures she was pointing the finger at (£240,984). Penny had Rayner bang to rights…
 
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