Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
No, I include Corbyn when Boris is put in a elite category. And Gareth Bale. And the Beckhams etc....

I'm sorry, there was me thinking that the term 'elite' was reserved as a pejorative for Labour-supporting Remainers.

Bale and Beckham are new money, though. Very non-U.
 
Rishi Sunak looks the best bet at present imo. That'd confound the Twitter race baiters, although of course, presumably he's the wrong sort of BAME for them
You may be right but it's way too early to say. It's easy to look good when you give billions away and can be seen to be doing your bit to save jobs rather than keep banging on about a legendary magic money tree. However we'll see how he fares when the time comes to replenishing the coffers. Until the Tories can get over their impotence when it comes to raising income tax something that is inevitable at some point soon, I won't be jumping on that bandwagon
 
You may be right but it's way too early to say. It's easy to look good when you give billions away and can be seen to be doing your bit to save jobs rather than keep banging on about a legendary magic money tree. However we'll see how he fares when the time comes to replenishing the coffers. Until the Tories can get over their impotence when it comes to raising income tax something that is inevitable at some point soon, I won't be jumping on that bandwagon

Yes, fair comment. I was impressed with him before he became Chancellor of the Exchequer so I'm hopeful he'll step up when necessary.
 
Tory donors now coming forward saying they’ve been asked to pay for a nanny and personal trainer for the Johnson’s
 
I wouldn't have any problem at all if Boris were forced out of office.
I've never been a fan (brexit aside).
The problem for me is that there is no viable opposition at the moment, which explains why Boris just gets away with everything.
I'm not convinced another Tory from this current bunch would be much better, but an upgrade wouldn't be that hard.
Another problem is that if he's forced out and gets replaced by someone who doesn't get the same support from the public, we could end up with a hung parliament at the next election.
I'm not a fan of those.
 
Unless you follow politics, generally people don't give a flying **** and wouldn't be able to name 10 current politicians. A lot of my pals and myself are working class people from a little markert town in West yorkshire. Couldn't even tell you who the local Tory Councillor is, never seen or heard from him/her. The majority of these friends voted Conservative. I'm not sure many could explain why but a few will openly tell you it was to stop more immigration. That's their perogative. Will they vote Tory again, course they will, mostly these are tradesmen and have never been so busy. Some have built up big businesses under a Tory watch. That's all they are bothered about, they might give a **** about wallpaper and dodgy contracts to donors, but for all of 10 seconds. They don't talk politics, they aren't interested but they vote. That's why I believe Labour will never be in power again in my lifetime. Right over wrong is a luxury some people ignore when it will never effect them.
Google "Shadow Cabinet" and one of your first hits will be to the Labour Party where you can see mug shots and cast list. It was fascinating to see. I hardly recognised more than 1/3 of them or recognised the names of half of them.