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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Premiershiporbust...., Oct 12, 2011.

  1. Premiershiporbust....

    Premiershiporbust.... Active Member

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    Well with Jones apparently not having applied and the latest bombshell news about Derek Mcinnes, the plot thickens and I have no idea what to believe anymore...

    Did the BEP do what they usually do and just read whats on the boards and regurgitate it...? It wouldn't be the first time however I somehow doubt it on this one, its just too big a story (locally) to get wrong.....

    If the 2 named above aren't involved, its going to have to be a good one to keep us happy and the board know this so whilst SOD, Robins, et all will get my backing, it won't be what we wished for...
     
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    Was just thinking this, you'd think they would appoint Jones by now, and at least contacted Mciness..

    That were the 2 who I really wanted..

    Got a bad feeling..
     
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  3. wizered

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  4. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    "Former Cardiff boss Dave Jones and ex-Doncaster manager Sean O'Driscoll satisfy that particular criteria and both have been interviewed for the post"

    Taken from yesterdays EP, where are you getting DJ has not applied?
     
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  5. Premiershiporbust....

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    Banksy, from Alegenon's article (no 3 on page 2 of this board) yesterday - have a look as I can't post the link...

    The BEP also said Mcinnes had been interviewed but, not acccording to his chairman...
     
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  6. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I see it, does seem a bit vague though "appear to be out of the running" sounds like a lot of guesswork and misinformation to me.
     
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  7. Premiershiporbust....

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    I've only just seen the article on Cotterill from The Sun - very interesting bearing in mind the City connections there....

    Despite a few expressions of disgust, Cotterill could just be that rough diamond that makes us tick with good backing, who knows...

    But mind you, Officially Red (clue in the handle.?) has been saying all along that we are getting Robins, we'll see...

    Too much time on here, I'm not sure of my own name anymore -

    I'm off to read a Philip K Dick book, the plots are far easier to comprehend - for our younger members, I am an avid reader but this author wrote the only book that I have ever given up on because I got totally lost in the plot. Amazing seeing as his books have spawned some big and in one case, (Blade Runner) iconic films...
     
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    Hmmm, 4 guests reading the latest threads tonight - anyone care to speculate on who they are...?!

    Sign in guys and put us out of our misery, the suspense is killing us....!
     
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    smhbcfc Well-Known Member

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    I think we want Robins, but he's been interviewed by Forest, so waiting for the outcome of that?
    I did think we were waiting for McInnes, but the St Johstone chairman said no approach - have to assume he's telling the truth?
     
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  10. EnderMB

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    Quite frankly, I doubt we'll pay for anyone and I doubt that anyone who applies for the job will be given any money. If there was money to give then Millen would have already spent it.

    The reason we've not got a name yet is probably down to the fact that we want someone cheap, unemployed and willing to work with nothing. For me, this is a recipe for disaster and to be frank if the new manager isn't given substantial investment we're going down.
     
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  11. Natchrawldry

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    Personally Prem, I don't waste any of my time trying to work out who it's going to be (well not at this early stage yet anyway) I follow the speculation but take most of it with a pinch of salt...

    My favourite part of the whole thing is the people with their crystal balls, telling us who we're getting in the hope that they'll be right so they can look dead good on the internet!

    Great fun <ok>
     
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  12. Premiershiporbust....

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    I find myself doing this a lot with you Ender but you don't half come out with some bull****... For instance

    "For me, this is a recipe for disaster and to be frank if the new manager isn't given substantial investment we're going down"

    So once again, remind me what is the minimum number of points the SAME SQUAD has achieved in the 4 years since we've been in the NPC.

    The CURRENT squad is comfortably capable of staying up, it just had no rudder, no leadership to direct it and this drift was just getting worse as time went on under KM - it will soon find its way out of trouble with the right man in charge...

    "Quite frankly, I doubt we'll pay for anyone and I doubt that anyone who applies for the job will be given any money. If there was money to give then Millen would have already spent it. The reason we've not got a name yet is probably down to the fact that we want someone cheap, unemployed and willing to work with nothing."

    Quite simply, bollocks...

    I did agree about the money initially however the longer this goes on, the more sure I am that SL (and NOT CS) is making sure that he gets the right man to spend his last fling before the Financial Fair Play Rules kick in. I gather we have something like 20 players out of contract at the end of this year which if true, will allow for some investment..

    In short, cheer up....
     
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  13. johngalleyfan2

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    tonights interveiw was concise, he was aware of the fans, getting it right and not rushing although he did say would like it before brum game...which means he is in some sort of hurry!! or hopes the new manager arriving for this game might just elevate the team for an unlikely victory!!!
     
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  14. EnderMB

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    Irrelevant. This isn't Brazil and we don't stay up based on how good we were in previous seasons.

    Additionally, four years is a long time in football and we've got a ton of new players and have said goodbye to just as many. Players also get older. If you can say in all truth that our squad is good enough to do well in the Championship then arguing this point is as good as useless.

    I'd chalk this comment down to wishful thinking at best, and naivety at worst.

    The reason we're not doing well isn't completely down to the manager. We've had that excuse for three different men and we'll have the same excuse when the squad under-performs. Yes, we've made some poor investments and Millen was the wrong guy at the wrong time, but a lot of fans would agree that the squad is simply not good enough. They're good enough to survive, but a lot of damage has already been done.

    I'd love for us to stay up this year as a number of players are out of contract (if I recall) and we'll free up a lot of money by getting these players out, with SL possibly willing to put some more money into the side. However, I don't subscribe to the idea that a manager can just walk into a side and have them playing great football.

    Where's our new manager then? Where's the big names being interviewed?

    We've not made a move for McInnes, if Sky is to be believed, and that's probably because he'll cost money and he's not got the experience we need. We're also not looking to poach anyone from another side, so that leads me to believe that we're looking for someone on the cheap.

    Yes, it's something that needs to be addressed with the utmost thought. However, none of the names being thrown around fill me with any confidence.
     
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  15. Premiershiporbust....

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    Ok, answering in turn:-

    1). I would argue that the squad is in fact BETTER than it has been. Look at the players bought in during the last 12 months or so;-

    Pitman - could have gone to Blackpool in the prem, turned them down to come to us (hmmm..)
    Hunt - yes, I know but there is something very wrong with this as you don't go from being a regular in the Prem to crap overnight
    Stewart - good and bad, no in between
    Stead - premier league pedigree
    Albert - no comment required
    NM - IMO, waiting to see who comes in before possibly committing to us with a prem release clause and back to top form

    Most of these could be considered a step up on our original 4 year old squad. A lot of teams would kill to have our forward line options in Stead, Maynard and Pitman

    As for the manager, I agree that it is not ENTIRELY about the manager, just 90% - have you ever had a boss whose methods and ideas you didn't agree with..? If so, what happened to your motivation, did you want to leave...?

    As for not being good enough, did you go to the Reading game...? - we have all seen with our own eyes that the squad is COMFORTABLY good enough. It just needs new ideas and motivation and on that subject, why do we need a "big name", where did Mouriniho start, was he a "big name" - no, he wasn't, he was just a VERY capable bloke that someone gave a chance and the rest, is history. You say we need experience but that is also no guarantee of success whatsoever...

    What this club needs more than anything else is for someone to come in, weigh things up quickly and then act and I would rather have someone capable of getting things done.

    As I have repeatedly said on here, people with successful leadership qualities stand out like a sore thumb and I believe that McInnes fits the bill massively in this respect but of course, only the interview will reveal "star quality"...

    THIS IS FAR FROM A RELEGATION SQUAD....
     
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  16. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Lovely banter between you two (prem and ender) and both of you have very valid points. BCFC have been Jekyll and Hyde for the last few seasons, and like most supporters, we have been waiting with baited breath for a string of performances upon which we could give them the seal of approval.

    Clearly that hasn't happened and has been highlighted by our current position. If the team had 10% of the desire and commitment to BCFC that you two show on this site then we wouldn't be in this mess - would we?

    Keep the faith that our board will finally get something right and we can all move on.
     
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  17. OfficiallyRed

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    Ok guys, i have some news! ive been told today from a very good source that the club want Mark Robins as manager, but Robins himself wants to manage Forest, so hes waiting to see if Forest land Coterill because if they dont then the Forest board will appoint him, thats why we are waiting, because Robins wont make up his mind till he knows for sure that hes out of the Forest running. I'll comment again when i have some more news.
     
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  18. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Sad but true that we are 2nd choicing all the way! No wonder people say that we are an unfashionable club when we have to do business this way.Oh well we will survive.
     
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  19. Natchrawldry

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    Well not long to wait now, and then we'll see how much egg is on how many faces...
     
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