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what implications? how have you reached that conclusion
how can I dismiss something which yu yourself have said doesnt currently exist?

The implication that you've been making throughout this article.
You've created a false dichotomy, where if science doesn't have the answer at the moment, then theism is right.

You've dismissed various scientific theories, like the evolution of man, for example, despite repeatedly showing that you don't understand them.
 
And yet you went straight back to talking about creation again afterwards, with your next question, which made absolutely no sense without that word.

I choose to use the word creation to mean origin, I explained this and that should be the end of the matter imo as it detracts from the OP


There are plenty of answers.
I don't believe that any of them are reliable, yours included.

I havent give an answer have I? The OP was about athiests thoughts. It seems there are not any

Who says that it came from anywhere?
We've no evidence that it's possible to create or destroy matter, so why should we assume that it can be done?

The question was where did matter come from? its afair enough question, no? we have evidence that it exists and to my knowledge nothing originates from nothing, so its a fair question/assumption to question its origin


No.
The Quran wasn't written in the current form of Arabic though, so we'll both have to work with translations, won't we?

I actuall read arabic (quranic arabic) very well


You really are just making this stuff up now.
Prove this is true.

ahh that old chestnut. you like that one dont you. define the parameters of proof and i will attempt it for you
 
The implication that you've been making throughout this article.
You've created a false dichotomy, where if science doesn't have the answer at the moment, then theism is right.

please point to where I have done or said this on this thread

You've dismissed various scientific theories, like the evolution of man, for example, despite repeatedly showing that you don't understand them.

have we discussed the evolution of man on here? or are you basing this on other discussions?
I have always accepted evolution, Its species jumping I dont accept as there is no evidence for it.
pictures of different skulls do not prove species jumping
 
I havent give an answer have I? The OP was about athiests thoughts. It seems there are not any

You are a Muslim, so your answer to the article's question is already known.

There are various theories about the answer from atheists, but nobody has anything to prove any of them to be reliable.
I'm sure I've already told you this.

The question was where did matter come from? its afair enough question, no? we have evidence that it exists and to my knowledge nothing originates from nothing, so its a fair question/assumption to question its origin

No.
Why does matter have to come from somewhere?
Why can't it just exist?

I actuall read arabic (quranic arabic) very well

You read Classical Arabic?
Interesting.

ahh that old chestnut. you like that one dont you. define the parameters of proof and i will attempt it for you

Show me a reliable translation of a passage that suggests that Allah is the Lord of the Worlds and that worlds in that context refers to alternate dimensions and planets that are earth-like, as you've claimed.
 
As I said on the other thread:

...
I notice thefanwithnoname is no longer making any attempt to hide his refusal to accept basic scientific knowledge. It was also quite laughable to see him quoting those notable, much-lauded scientific journals 'New Scientist' and 'The Times' to attempt to back up his more than spurious claims about (nay, rejection of) the diversification of early apes into those that exist today. Also, he appears to be a member of the "if I add 'FACT' to the end of each sentence then I'm automatically right" gang. Additionally, I find it hard to believe that a man who cannot distinguish between apes and monkeys has anything more than a childlike grasp of Biology. Please at least attempt to look into the science behind modern Evolutionary Theory, perhaps starting with DNA evidence (I feel that 'endogenous retroviruses' will be of particular interest in this case).
 
please point to where I have done or said this on this thread

Do you understand what the word implied means?


have we discussed the evolution of man on here? or are you basing this on other discussions?
I have always accepted evolution, Its species jumping I dont accept as there is no evidence for it.
pictures of different skulls do not prove species jumping

I'm basing it on other discussions.
You don't even understand evolution, let alone accept it.
There's a ton of evidence for it, which you've been shown various links, videos and statements about, but you ignore it all.

I'm not suggesting that you should automatically accept it, but you don't even take the time to understand what you're claiming isn't true.
 
You are a Muslim, so your answer to the article's question is already known.

<laugh> so a muslim cannot ask a question on athiesm? by that example you as an athiest need to keep of the religion and god threads

There are various theories about the answer from atheists, but nobody has anything to prove any of them to be reliable.
I'm sure I've already told you this.

and these theories are? as per the OP


No.
Why does matter have to come from somewhere?
Why can't it just exist?

so why does God have to come from somewhere why cant he just exist?

You read Classical Arabic?
Interesting.

I read quranic arabic, not really interesting being muslim


Show me a reliable translation of a passage that suggests that Allah is the Lord of the Worlds and that worlds in that context refers to alternate dimensions and planets that are earth-like, as you've claimed.

define your parameters of reliable. obviously what I have put forward isnt enough
 
so a muslim cannot ask a question on athiesm? by that example you as an athiest need to keep of the religion and god threads

When did I say that?
I said that your answer to the question that you've posed to atheist is already known, because you're a Muslim and it's part of your religion.

and these theories are? as per the OP

I'm sure that this has already been answered by various people on this thread.
Why are you asking it again?

so why does God have to come from somewhere why cant he just exist?

He could.
Feel free to provide some evidence that he does.
I don't think I need to prove that matter exists, do I?

I read quranic arabic, not really interesting being muslim

Is there a difference between Classical Arabic and Quranic Arabic?

define your parameters of reliable. obviously what I have put forward isnt enough

You haven't put forward anything.
You've made a claim.
Provide a link to somewhere that backs up that claim.
Anywhere would be a start.
A non-biased site would be preferable, but it's probably unlikely.
 
Do you understand what the word implied means?

<laugh> ok show me the 'implication' then


I'm basing it on other discussions.

so not on here then? this i a different thread and has nothing to do with evolution

You don't even understand evolution, let alone accept it.

I dont except what you have put forward, that is true
I understand evolution fine, but the issue here is what preceeded evolution


There's a ton of evidence for it, which you've been shown various links, videos and statements about, but you ignore it all.

only the bull. as i say i understand evolution

I'm not suggesting that you should automatically accept it, but you don't even take the time to understand what you're claiming isn't true.

As i have saidyou argue about Islam but know nothing about it, you are a proclaimed athiest yet accept its theories are not proven or even reliable
at least i am arguing about something i actually believe to be true
 
As i have saidyou argue about Islam but know nothing about it, you are a proclaimed athiest yet accept its theories are not proven or even reliable
at least i am arguing about something i actually believe to be true

I'll ignore the rest of your crap for a moment and just focus on the utter crap that you've spouted here.

Atheism doesn't have any theories.
I've told you this a ridiculous number of times.
Atheism is the rejection of theistic claims about the existence of a god or gods.
You can be an atheist and believe that dragons created the world from their arse, as long as you don't think that those dragons were gods.

Why can't you understand this?