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Takeover (Covid-19/20)

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by RobEllious, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    So let's look at things

    Lost once in 8 since the brilliant decision to bring Jones in which cost nowt

    We've spent around 100 million the past 2 seasons

    We've only sold one player of note since our last relegation

    We've broken our record transfer fee 3 times recently

    We've got 4 local lads in the sqaud

    We've got a manager from Newcastle

    We've got 3 local youths coming through the youth system and one on Anderson is a real prospect.

    If Ashley was to invest in the training facilities there's nothing else more he can do
     
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  2. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Bollox
     
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  3. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Which isn't the case though or am I missing something.

    Seriously mate If you look at it post out last relegation he's been fine
     
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  4. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    Or......

    Another turgid season with relegation still a threat, albeit a more distant one.

    Wasted £40m on a turd of a player thanks to inadequate scouting resources or football knowledge.

    Steve Bruce in charge, wtaf.

    Took 20 years to break a transfer record.

    Offered new contract to Gayle, extended Carroll's.

    U-23's are stone last in their PL SECOND division, well behind the likes of Middleborough.

    Still using wheelie bins and inflatable pools.

    Little to no guarantee that youth will succeed here - just look at Toney, Armstrong and others.

    0% Commercial growth across 14 years. Literally no income from deals.

    Recently signed a shirt deal that is somehow worse than our last one, with a tin pot shirt retailer with no global reach, because the owners involved in pissy disagreements with Nike, Puma and Adidas.

    Sold Strawberry Place to ensure SJP is very unlikely to ever expand.

    Continues to neglect the ground and surrounding area.

    Never speaks.

    Employs Lee Charnley to run the club.

    Has an entire senior management team consisting of Lee Charnley.



    That's just what I could immediately think of.
     
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  5. Toonitus

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    That's a very negative way of looking at it.

    We've got some players worth watching these days
     
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  6. jimileysbaldhead

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    Couldn't agree more, once again he's got us challenging for the top 17.
     
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  7. Toonitus

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    We're 15TH today and only 1 point behind Southampton.

    I think without covid and injuries we'd have been pushing for perhaps a top half finish
     
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  8. jimileysbaldhead

    jimileysbaldhead Well-Known Member

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    Wow....when you put it like that it beggars belief that the top clubs don't follow his model for success.
     
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  9. Toonitus

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    There's big money at so many clubs in the prem now tbh mate

    City
    Man united
    Chelsea
    Villa
    Everton
    Wolves
    Liverpool
    Tottenham

    That's 8 sides we can't compete with them you've gote Leicester who've excelled and are simply years ahead of us on and off the pitch


    Realistically were competing with the rest, so we're not doing too badly

    10th, 13th, 13th and currently 15th

    I'm not saying he's great im just saying he's improved alot since our last relegation.
     
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  10. Roland Deschain

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    Ironically, apart from the dreadful attempts at commercial income, which restricts our ability to develop facilities, and really piss-weak "Exec" team, Ashley's right and the rest of "elite" football is actually wrong.
     
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  11. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    Mike ashley runs the club the way it can and should..
    Most others operate on the never never.

    Tottenham owe well over 1 billion... They're ****ed...

    The time bomb is ticking for alot of the clubs up that end
     
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  12. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I know it's going to be hard for us to accept we've been wrong for the best part of 14 years, but Mike ashley is looking after the future of this club
     
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  13. cronemeister

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    What exactly was your point here? You're just stating facts, most of which whilst fact, are meaningless (see my comments above).

    The takeover will likely happen in my opinion and whilst we don't know what this will exactly mean, we know what it most likely won't mean and that's ****ing good enough for me!

    No Ashley, no Charnley, no Bruce, no fighting for 17th place season in season out. We've already heard last year when the takeover was first announced that they weren't gonna come in and start spunking the cash left right and centre on bringing and endless stream of world class big name players in, that is even more true if Rafa is the man coming back to replace Bruce (I have no preference either way, i just want rid of ****ing Bruce). On top of that there's the investment in the wider remit of the project that they talked about, again it could be bollocks but we're no further back on that front if nothing comes of it.

    Saudi money will come to the PL at some point in the future, why the **** shouldn't it be with us? The countries of every owner in the premier league will all have something lurking away in their dark past why does it matter how long ago or how recent it is...bad **** is bad **** regardless of when it's happened....the important thing is that things change for the better which I think we've already seen from some of the stuff that has happened since this whole takeover story started last year. If buying us is a trigger/catalyst for wider improvements both here (North East) and in Saudi then we should be happy to be part of that.
     
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  14. cronemeister

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    True to a certain extent but make no bones about it, Ashley only cares about 2 things, himself and his money! He's looking after something to give him the best chance of getting as much back for his investment as he possibly can.

    It's like you buying a classic car to restore and sell on for a profit. If you don't look after it and you add pieces of **** to it you're not gonna get as much money for it as you would if you added genuine top quality parts to it. This is no different. He's lucky that some of the players there are saleable assets (ASM, Miggy, Wilson) and that we are in the Premier League. That assures him of at least £100m that he otherwise would not be able to demand!
     
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  15. Toonitus

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    So I am right then

    On the separate argument yes he's only in it for those reasons, but the fact remains he's got better since our last relegation and we've lost only once in 8 gamee since the brilliant out of the box employment of Jones.

    I give credit where its due that's all... Some people just hate Ashley so much they're in denial
     
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  16. Toonitus

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    Here's another thing he's done right on that he didn't give in to player power

    The players that revolted against bruve now know they're not in charge and that's good for the future.

    I'd he'd given in they'd keep doing it with the next manager and the next and the next
     
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  17. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Unfortunately you are wrong.
    Our youth system is shot, our team is ****, our manager ****ter.
     
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  18. Toonitus

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    You don't think he's doing better than before our last relegation?

    We've spent more than our club ever has on players, we've produced some players and not sold any bar Perez.

    I think he's doing ok I'm not saying he's doing brilliantly, but things are improving
     
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  19. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    The takeover will happen. Why? Because of arbitration.

    The single issue is legal separation. If that is established by arbitration then the PL have to abide by the decision and apply their own test to PIF, Staveley and Reubens. All will pass it.

    The only thing that can stop it is a negative finding at arbitration. That will not happen.
     
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  20. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I think it was agreed shortly before Easter and I've been saying that since then. The events of the last week suggest to me that the big 6 know and this was their final play which they've lost. This sudden jump from the big 6 without any consulting fans or prepping the media for it might be explained by it.


    I might of course be reading into things far too much.

    De Marco brown ale
    Staveley's husband digging out old tweets the same day.
    Cheering on results since that day as if staying up was vital after that day
    He's now out here talking about owning clubs and mistakes will be made.. He's talking like he knows he's going into one that's for sure.
     
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