Off Topic NHS pay rise

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Gatesy said:
Erm, I was quoting the tweet, not you but what you did say in that post is below... You followed up with the 1% isn't enough in another post after the post I quoted about the tweet so thanks for pulling me up on a post I hadn't seen. I truly consider my post 'pulled apart' :emoticon-0138-think

'Something to mull over... 12.5% is just utter madness but it is a negotiation and I think that they know that it's an absurd request'

What I did mull over, as previously stated, is that someone from the Forces thought it a good idea to say stop whining about your pay rise when all other public sectors took a pay freeze and people are struggling when in reality, in 2020 the Military took a 2% pay rise while 'it wasn't the right time to discuss an NHS pay rise' and then a year after the Military, Police and Fire Service, the NHS gets half or less than the 3 mentioned... How about that individual give up there 2% to help out the struggling families they so happily quoted for the good of making the NHS look bad?
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Another issue here is the ability for NHS staff to have a union where the miltary can't. We get what we're given, there's no negotiation and the only way to change things is really outside our control - lots of people have to leave and nobody has to join to replace them.

Plus none of us would ever work as we'd always be out in sympathy ;)
 
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[QUOTE="kirkyboy, post: 14692604, member: 1001819"]it’s not an ever ending pot of money. It has to be backed up by something tangible - in our case our stock of gold which is the 2nd largest in the world behind the US. However it is a tool that can be used by Governments to help in times of crisis, such as a pandemic or after a war to help rebuild an economy. It’s an option. Putting more money in the pockets of ordinary working people such as Nurses will help stimulate the economy in all areas, leading to more jobs being created which is ultimately going to help those who have unfortunately lost their jobs due to the pandemic. More jobs = more tax revenue for the Government. Trickle down economic models which have been used around the world have been shown not to work. Giving more money to those who are already wealthy is not going to stimulate the economy. Giving it to people who will go out and spend it, will.[/QUOTE]


Once again you are into 'voodo economics'.

The Gold Standard, the Gold that backed currencies was abandoned by Brittain in 1931 due to it's deflationary effects that were part of the reason for 'the great depression'.

Britains gold reserves were reduced about 20 years ago, when Chancellor Goron Brown flogged half off at the bottom of the market.
Estimates vary about how much this cost The Treasury depending on the price of Giold at any on time, but somewhere between £10 and 15 Billion seems to be the general concensus.

Our place in the league of holders of gold is not second..
It's 17th acording to this list.Behind economies such as Turkey, Khazikstan and Uzbekistan.

Top 50 Countries with Largest Gold Reserves 2020 (advratings.com)

The rest of your economics is sound enough, if somewhat restricted.
Paying health Service Worker more, largest employer or not, will not in itself be enough to stimulate the economy quickly.
Oddly, (for a Tory Politician), The Chancellor has done well with his various furlow and support schemes, so far.
Not perfect perhaps, no doubt welcomed by those who were/are in desperate need.

And I confess that it's easier to pick holes in someone else's solutions than to come up with a feasable solution myself .
 
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Pure River Slut said:
Hancock’s racing colleague
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And all of the afore mentioned are big friends with the billionaire Vestey family through the "racing links". Contracts flying all over (allegedly). The Grauniad have got their teeth into this, and are not letting it go. I have been told by a mate down there whose ex girlfriend used to cut Hancock's hair that he is "****ting himself" about it:emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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I must say that I'm just a bit suprised at the number on here who are in favour of paying higher taxes,

Because that's what a Government paying out more than it gets in.results in.

I've explained why I don't mind paying extra, but my situation isn't common.

NORMALY, the only people in favour of higher taxes are those that don't pay any in the first place,
Apparantly this is no longer the case.
Perhaps the only good thing to come out of Covid, might be this sense of shared compasion.
 
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Here’s something not thought of. The 1% pay rise will cost the government nothing extra. I know this fir certain as my org and all of the organisations we support are saving millions because of the pandemic. Our organisation is no longer renting 4 of the buildings previously rented from private landlords. Couple that with the heating and electricity savings it’s massive. We are also not travelling for any meeting unless paid fir by external customers. 3000 per year average for 800 employees at 56p per mile saved £1.3m. So our pay rise is more than covered in the cost savings fir the organisations.
 
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they should start a NHS tax £5 a week off every person in Britain that would be enough about £300m a week pay extra for staff, i mean you could miss out on a magazine each week and that do. I get my vaccine jab on 24/3/21 at the nightingale centre being 61.
 
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monty987 said:
they should start a NHS tax £5 a week off every person in Britain that would be enough about £300m a week pay extra for staff, i mean you could miss out on a magazine each week and that do. I get my vaccine jab on 24/3/21 at the nightingale centre being 61.
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I paid over £100 tax and national insurance last week, is that not enough? If you start paying for the NHS seperately it is de facto "privatised" isn't it?
 
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The Professor said:
Interviews are difficult, especially the talking yourself up part, make sure you give her a hand in preping, write some twatfull questions down & sit with her as a practice interview, she will think your a proper ****, but it will help her ro go over after & manage in the proper interview

sure you know all that, sounds like she needs a change & hope she gets one, good luck
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Well she had her interview today and got the job :1980_boogie_down:

She's made up although has to move wards and is already missing the staff she works with :rolleyes: :D
But this will be less strenuous for her and more money.
Not that I'll see any of that fooker :rolleyes: :D


A cup win on Sunday will top the week off nicely :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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Smug in Boots said:
If a grandchild was looking at the NHS, as a career, I think I'd be suggesting alternatives.
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Thats just what my 18 year old grand daughter is about to do providing she gets her expected results in her A levels this summer.
I've told her she'll never make a fortune but she is a kind caring kid who will be brilliant at nursing and I think her career choice is right up her street.
 
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Nig said:
Well she had her interview today and got the job :1980_boogie_down:

She's made up although has to move wards and is already missing the staff she works with :rolleyes: :D
But this will be less strenuous for her and more money.
Not that I'll see any of that fooker :rolleyes: :D


A cup win on Sunday will top the week off nicely :emoticon-0148-yes:
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Fantastic mate, over the moon for you both
 
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