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We've Had Bad Managers Before................

Discussion in 'Bristol Rovers' started by pirate49, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. pirate49

    pirate49 Well-Known Member
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    ................but this one is different !
    We can all name bad managers from the past. However the problems were usually on field. This bloke seems to be on a mission to rebuild our club completely.
    Now there may be things wrong with our club. OK, yes, there are things wrong with our club. However most people at Rovers, and I include directors, have the club at heart and are doing their level best.
    Buckle seems driven by ego and a conviction that only he has the vision to take Rovers forwards. I don't blame the board for appointing him.
    I've been in the position myself. You interview someone who presents well, is articulate, and talks the talk. You note the fact that his success has been in one environment, but convince yourself that his skills are transferable to your workplace.
    Then one day into the appointment you think 'S**t, what have I done?'
    I've said elsewhere that Buckle has overspent his budget, and is known within the club as high-maintenance. He has made few friends.
    Self-confidence is no bad thing, but his is frightening. He raised expectations and promised expansive attacking football. He is petty, in many ways a little man Napoleon.
    He could do this club great damage. We are in L2 and close to the Conference. He is alienating the fans. A new manager usually has a honeymoon period of good results. We're not seeing this.
    The board may fear criticism and ridicule, but I for one would give my full support if they got rid of him now before he does more damage.
     
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  2. gas

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    We`ll play beautiful attacking football on the deck on Friday and give Rotherham a shrashing and all will be well.
     
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  3. Chris-Gashead

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    YOBG, I think on reflection, he can not be removed just now. He is a twat of the highest order, but we have not had any stability since Trolls went and I believe that is what we need right now, but Buckle needs to face up to his own issues. Why is it that everyone connected with the club can see we need a new defence, yet he can not? He dare have a pop at us fans about how we support this club? He is manager, we are THE CLUB. Id give him a couple more weeks. If he doesn’t sort out the defence within the next couple of weeks, he can go and take Zebra with him.
     
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  4. Sapphire

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    "Unfortunately we have to start again from where we are. Buckle and the players are going nowhere. They are the Gas coaching and playing staff and we are stuck with them at least until the end of the season. Nothing has gone as anyone expected. We pulled in players who SEEMED up to the mark and a manager who SEEMED to be a decent aquisition at this level. IMO we must press that the team start to play decent football. Everyone would be happier if the ball was knocked around in attempt play with good passing movement and you dont lose too many matches with a tight defence. Let us hope and pray that the Gas management learn from the obvious mistakes that are being made, so we can all get back on board and support some quality football"

    I posted the above earlier and have since seen Master Buckle's match report re Oxford. IMO he has at last got the message (perhaps he does read these boards) that Gas fans will not accept his unnacceptable comments so far or his tactics on the field. By the way Master can be seen as the pupil learning a trade or the Maestro. Let us hope we finish the season with the latter.
     
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  5. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    he is truely the mourinho of league 2. so far up his own arse its unreal.
     
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  6. Gastronomic

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    Buckle's a brave man. I can't remember any other manager who has made the wholesale changes and brought in the number of players that he has. I have managed and trained lots of teams in the past. It is really difficult when you try to integrate the old with the new. The old guard usually resist change and even some of the new people will try to revert to old ways. It really does take time - months to get everyone aligned to the new ways of doing things.

    Buckle's come here with a good reputation, and he's put his reputation on the line by taking a few risks.He has to be strong and single minded to get us to where we need to be. Perhaps that comes across as arrogant to some people. I see a very good manager - probably the best manager we have ever appointed, and I'm sure that if we stick with him he will take us a long way in the right direction.

    I can remember the fiasco the last time we went down - Gerry Francis, Ray Graydon, the Atkins diet...grim, grim, grim.This time we have got a decent managers, a decent squad few players who can change a game and we are actually beating a few of the top sides
     
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  7. Chris-Gashead

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    Yes and actually getting battered by sides like Cheltenham and Oxford too (no disrespect to those sides) <ok>

    Oxford have ****ing annihilated us twice now and it aint on. We have gone from a decent League one side with hopes of promotion to the championship one day, to a ****ing disgrace of a side playing Shrewsbury <wah>
     
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  8. Sapphire

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    Memories of the first and only time I left a match at half time!
     
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  10. Captain Jack Sparrow

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    the mourinho bit is not talking about being a good manager. its the **** that comes out of his mouth which gives buckle this title.
     
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    I`m completely pissed off with the way things are going at the moment but can`t blame the board for the appointment of PB. For a long time now many of us have been crying out for a strong manager who will take control of all aspects of the running of the club and this goes way back to the Trolls days. PB has certainly showed strength and an unflappable determination to do things his way but so far it looks like he`s ****ing it up. I`m hoping he gets it right because I can`t help feeling if he eventually turns things around then we could end up doing very well. All the best managers are egotistical and selfish he just needs to wind his neck in when he criticises the fans, we`re the ****s who`ll be here long after he`s gone.
     
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    Botttom line is Buckle has brought in players that are just not good enough. Now what the **** do we do?
     
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    Mass suicide on Friday night anyone?
     
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    this may be the easy way out suggestion but how can the the squad perform when morale and confidence is on the floor. may i suggest a great attendance and fullsome cheering of the lads may help to instill a little confidence on friday night. the shrews were hoping the gas might accompany us into L1, at present you have some leeway to make up. come on extra rations of carrots for matty h, he will lead you the team and buckle screaming up the league.

    you had the right manager and squad, time to raise morale and confidence is it not. come on you gas, irene is full awake now. gas 2 millers 0 it looks good anyway
     
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  15. Sapphire

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    Having worked with International coaching teams for many years, I have found that most professional coaches are pretty feisty characters. They are self opinionated, thick skinned (they have to be when they get so much critisicm when things dont go well), have their own plan for team tactics and style of play and they do not believe in pussy footing around players who 'cock up' or do not toe the line (the coach's line not the players conception of it). From what I have seen I reckon Buckle is in the mould.

    Sorry to repeat a previous comment, but Master Buckle also passes the buck pretty well.
     
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  16. atcham jack

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    the last great gas manager was the late bert tann in the gas glory days. now it is the slippery slope to who knows where. at least only one team may be relegated this season


    yes i know f**k off aj
     
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  17. pirate49

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    I notice that I posted this in OCTOBER !!
     
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