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Fair point @FosseFilberto

I’m on the remain side and I watched fishermen vote leave. But I also know some of them (personally) who would describe themselves as pro European, yet still voted Brexit.

I don’t think you can generalise about patriots and foreigners, it’s much more nuanced that that.

I'm a patriot, it gets a bit tiring these generalisations. I voted for my own reasons. Attacking patriots with generalisations such as fisherman and the like is just painting narratives, that in no way fit the whole or even part of the argument why 'some' people voted leave. It might be fitting to some fisherman, but Fosse in no way, made that clear in his text.
 
I'm a patriot, it gets a bit tiring these generalisations. I voted for my own reasons. Attacking patriots with generalisations such as fisherman and the like is just painting narratives, that in no way fit the whole or even part of the argument why people voted leave. It might be fitting to some fisherman, but Fosse in no way, made that clear in his text.

Yeah well, like sucky said, might be coz Fosse is a bit thick. :bandit:
 
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I'm a patriot, it gets a bit tiring these generalisations. I voted for my own reasons. Attacking patriots with generalisations such as fisherman and the like is just painting narratives, that in no way fit the whole or even part of the argument why people voted leave. It might be fitting to some fisherman, but Fosse in no way, made that clear in his text.

People will get the **** over it eventually.

Lots of things british people need to get the **** over tbh, lots of bitchin and complainin about minor disputes no one 50 years ago woulda thought about for 2 seconds

Scottish are bad for this **** now

Lack of GCSEs i imagine
 
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You made no mention of 'fisherman' or how they 'generally voted' in your original post, you instead attacked patriots, which includes me. You also made a reference to 'foreigner' - which you've clearly carried over from your time on GC, and your constant attacking of certain brexiters on there. It certainly in no way formed part of a sensible discussion. But in answer to your question, why would I care about fisherman, they wanted to sell their produce to the EU, that aint my problem. Selfish maybe, but they need to learn to adapt - if they can't do that, we'll await the next venture that comes along and thinks differently about what the market of own sourced fish has to offer.

I was replying to a specufic post that Tobes made about fishing tarrifs and the EU 3rd party exporting rules and how it impacts our fishing fleet ... that you think it was a dig at you and 'patriots like you' is wholly down to your insecurities and perhaps an over bloated sense of self importance. Rest assured, you rarely cross my mind <laugh>

If, on the other hand, you want to see it as a dig at the dishonesty and misinformation of the Brexit campaign, fair enough... it was ... the fishermen weren't the only ones duped ... now where is that lovely Big Red Bus with the big fat lies again? <cheers>
 
I mean if we’re talking politics and Brexit then I still don’t see what all the fuss was about. The world was supposed to collapse and even with an economy-crippling pandemic thrown in, it’s not that bad, is it?

I thought all the big companies were ****ing off to Germany & Spain?
 
Just a side note on imports / exports that is a direct result of the deal struck and the U.K.’s chosen future method of VAT collection btw, that some might not be aware of.

Some bright spark decided to copy and paste the future EU rules on VAT collection for 3rd countries that comes into force July this year iirc, and apply the same rules for the U.K. moving forwards - Worldwide.

So the idea is that all 3rd country suppliers will have to register with HMRC and collect VAT from the consumer on behalf of the U.K. and submit the payment and returns to HMRC. In the same way the EU intend to work moving forwards. Only they didn’t seem to quite realise the salient difference, as The U.K. is a 65 million market, the EU is a 550m market. So if you’re a niche low volume supplier, the cost and hassle (circa £1000 a year to register and submit is what I saw) then you’re unlikely to see value in bothering. That’s why we’re now seeing ‘we no longer supply to the UK’ on many websites.
 
I mean if we’re talking politics and Brexit then I still don’t see what all the fuss was about. The world was supposed to collapse and even with an economy-crippling pandemic thrown in, it’s not that bad, is it?

I thought all the big companies were ****ing off to Germany & Spain?

The only thing ive heard about all ****ing month is fish

Elephant in the room is most fishermen are dumb ****s and cant sign papers properly nor vote properly

**** em
 
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I'm a patriot, it gets a bit tiring these generalisations. I voted for my own reasons. Attacking patriots with generalisations such as fisherman and the like is just painting narratives, that in no way fit the whole or even part of the argument why 'some' people voted leave. It might be fitting to some fisherman, but Fosse in no way, made that clear in his text.

Again I refer you to the post I was endorsing with my comments ... fishing specific, although the 3rd party export rules are applicable across the board ...
 
I was replying to a post that Tobes made about fishing tarrifs and the EU 3rd party exporting rules and how it impacts our fishing fleet ... that you think it was a dig at you and 'patriots like you' is wholly down to your insecurities and perhaps an over bloated sense of self importance. Rest assured, you rarely cross my mind <laugh>

If, on the other hand, you want to see it as a dig at the dishonesty and misinformation of the Brexit campaign, fair enough... it was ... the fishermen weren't the only ones duped ... now where is that lively Big Red Bus woth the big fat lies again? <cheers>

Like I said, you've been spending too much time on GC. You attacked patriots, therefore I saw your comment as an attack on anyone that is a patriot. As for self importance you need to go look in a mirror. You see yourself as the forum joker, I see you as a sad old man, who constantly wants to remind us his mrs is a decade younger than yourself, insecurities indeed. Then you tend to stroll up here windmilling after midnight, once you've had a bottle of the pink stuff, attempting to belittle people, disguised as Fosse jokes. So I stand up to you, and you don't like it.

Bye I'm to busy to deal with your shhite x
 
Just a side note on imports / exports that is a direct result of the deal struck and the U.K.’s chosen future method of VAT collection btw, that some might not be aware of.

Some bright spark decided to copy and paste the future EU rules on VAT collection for 3rd countries that comes into force July this year iirc, and apply the same rules for the U.K. moving forwards - Worldwide.

So the idea is that all 3rd country suppliers will have to register with HMRC and collect VAT from the consumer on behalf of the U.K. and submit the payment and returns to HMRC. In the same way the EU intend to work moving forwards. Only they didn’t seem to quite realise the salient difference, as The U.K. is a 65 million market, the EU is a 550m market. So if you’re a niche low volume supplier, the cost and hassle (circa £1000 a year to register and submit is what I saw) then you’re unlikely to see value in bothering. That’s why we’re now seeing ‘we no longer supply to the UK’ on many websites.

@FosseFilberto were you involved in this by chance?

Big time negotiator arent you?
 
Just a side note on imports / exports that is a direct result of the deal struck and the U.K.’s chosen future method of VAT collection btw, that some might not be aware of.

Some bright spark decided to copy and paste the future EU rules on VAT collection for 3rd countries that comes into force July this year iirc, and apply the same rules for the U.K. moving forwards - Worldwide.

So the idea is that all 3rd country suppliers will have to register with HMRC and collect VAT from the consumer on behalf of the U.K. and submit the payment and returns to HMRC. In the same way the EU intend to work moving forwards. Only they didn’t seem to quite realise the salient difference, as The U.K. is a 65 million market, the EU is a 550m market. So if you’re a niche low volume supplier, the cost and hassle (circa £1000 a year to register and submit is what I saw) then you’re unlikely to see value in bothering. That’s why we’re now seeing ‘we no longer supply to the UK’ on many websites.

Was listening to a prog on radio 4 about this the other day. It was a German flower and seed seller for ornamental plants. The cost of exporting to the UK due to the extra red tape and associated costs have made it unviable.

I can’t remember the exact figures, but it was adding something like 50-80 euros per order to the UK customer. So they’ve simply ****ed it all off instead.
 
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Like I said, you've been spending too much time on GC. You attacked patriots, therefore I saw your comment as an attack on anyone that is a patriot. As for self importance you need to go look in a mirror. You see yourself as the forum joker, I see you as a sad old man, who constantly wants to remind us his mrs is a decade younger than yourself, insecurities indeed. Then you tend to stroll up here windmilling after midnight, once you've had a bottle of the pink stuff, attempting to belittle people, disguised as Fosse jokes. So I stand up to you, and you don't like it.

Bye I'm to busy to deal with your shhite x

Yeah I did tell him he needs to find a bit more chill.
 
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