Coronavirus

[PINKIE]

I think you'll probably find a lot of British people don't eat fish/shellfish, because as i highlighted earlier, it's of poor quality and overpriced. Fish could easily become part of our diet, especially in a time when people are increasingly moving away from meat. Along with managing the environmental impact.

You put decent fish in the supermarkets, I will buy it. If you don't, I'll spend the money on meat.

Yep. Most of that stuff in the supermarket is months old. It’s been kept in deep freeze and then laid on on the counter as ‘fresh fish’

As solid mentioned just use your local fishmonger. The fish will be much fresher and you’re supporting a local business. You live in Kent there’s a decent fishing industry down there. Even more so for shellfish.

 

[Tel (they/them)]

I’ve maintained from almost the beginning of this pandemic that China dealt with it better than us for 2 reasons that are sort of both the same reason.

1. They’re used to wearing masks for pollution etc and therefore they masked-up nice and early and therefore didn’t go round touching everything and then putting their fingers in their mouths.

2. The U.K. is a nation full of dirty scruffy bastards who touch everything and have the Hygeine standards of sewer rats.

 

[Libby]

Wish people would leave the sensible discussion alone so we can have more Watford vs Chief

 

[PINKIE]

I’ve maintained from almost the beginning of this pandemic that China dealt with it better than us for 2 reasons that are sort of both the same reason.

1. They’re used to wearing masks for pollution etc and therefore they masked-up nice and early and therefore didn’t go round touching everything and then putting their fingers in their mouths.

2. The U.K. is a nation full of dirty scruffy bastards who touch everything and have the Hygeine standards of sewer rats.

They also do what their govt tells them otherwise they get sent to the concentration camps.

Whereas we just argue about it on the internet instead.

 

[Sucky]

Yep. Most of that stuff in the supermarket is months old. It’s been kept in deep freeze and then laid on on the counter as ‘fresh fish’

As solid mentioned just use your local fishmonger. The fish will be much fresher and you’re supporting a local business. You live in Kent there’s a decent fishing industry down there. Even more so for shellfish.

Just need a rod tbh Temz outside my door

 

[Sucky]

They also do what their govt tells them otherwise they get sent to the concentration camps.

Whereas we just argue about it on the internet instead.

See. trumps lads got a point

 

[brb]

Yep. Most of that stuff in the supermarket is months old. It’s been kept in deep freeze and then laid on on the counter as ‘fresh fish’

As solid mentioned just use your local fishmonger. The fish will be much fresher and you’re supporting a local business. You live in Kent there’s a decent fishing industry down there. Even more so for shellfish.

I don't even think it's about the fishmonger, supermarkets need to ensure change is available as well. I was watching a long time ago, where lobster came into ALDI and the quality of it. They also removed the need for accompanied freight. I'm sure they have a distribution centre down at Northfleet. Everything is shipped in straight up the Thames from places such as Germany. I don't know all the finer detail but it gives you the basics of what they do. They just need to go a step further and source it in the UK (as you mentioned earlier), rather than fisherman selling it abroad, for it to be shipped back. I'm assuming the problem here is cold storage, but we need to adapt, and ensure we have the facilities to adapt. The environment from a fishing perspective as well as the impact of to and froing mileage, all needs to be brought in check. It's ok to say something is British, but what round trip did it go on, before being sold to the consumer. I'm never saying the EU market didn't work, just the nonsense needs to be taken out of it.

 

[Libby]

They also do what their govt tells them otherwise they get sent to the concentration camps.

Whereas we just argue about it on the internet instead.

The respective compliance of the population is definitely a factor when talking comparisons between the UK and SE Asia.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Only there are no tariffs being imposed on fish / seafood being sold into the EU. What’s changed is that we’re now having to follow the rules for being a 3rd country exporting to the EU, as we've left the single market and customs union, and with that, comes a mountain of paperwork and certification. Which for an extremely time sensitive product like live shellfish is difficult, as any delays means the entire load can be rejected when it arrives at the other end.

The fishing industry is up in arms about it, especially some of the mouth pieces who wanged on about FISH during the entire debacle, but this issue hasn’t been caused by the ‘deal’, it’s merely the reality of Brexit. It’s literally what we voted for.

Yup ... unfortunately this rathet glaring practical reality was washed over by the patriotic dream of reclaiming our seas from the dastardly foreigner.

 

[brb]

Yup ... unfortunately this rathet glaring practical reality was washed over by the patriotic dream of reclaiming our seas from the dastardly foreigner.

Another stupid generalisation by you.

 

[PINKIE]

I don't even think it's about the fishmonger, supermarkets need to ensure change is available as well. I was watching a long time ago, where lobster came into ALDI and the quality of it. They also removed the need for accompanied freight. I'm sure they have a distriubtion centre down at Northfleet. Everything is shipped in straight up the Thames from places such as Germany. I don't know all the finer detail but it gives you the basics of what they do. They just need to go a step further and source it in the UK (as you mentioned earlier), rather than fisherman selling it abroad, for it to be shipped back. I'm assuming the problem here is cold storage, but we need to adapt, and ensure we have the facilities to adapt. The environment from a fishing perspective as well as the impact of to and froing mileage, all needs to be brought in check. It's ok to say something is British, but what round trip did it go on, before being sold to the consumer. I'm never saying the EU market didn't work, just the nonsense needs to be taken out of it.

As much as I don’t like Brexit and think it will have a detrimental effect on many aspects of life, I do think there’s an opportunity for it to reshape the food industry and buy more British grown produce.

For that to happen though, folk need to learn to enjoy the produce we make and eat more seasonally. I mentioned it earlier, but the British don’t eat a lot of herring, mackerel or sardines so most of that gets imported to the EU.

And although not strictly linked to Brexit, the unsustainable practice of air freighting food in from the other side of the world needs to change. We’ve become a convenience culture, we want everything on demand. We need to learn that things like asparagus grow here in the spring and that’s when we should be eating it. Rather than flying it in from Peru in the middle of December.

 

[Sucky]

Another stupid generalisation by you.

@FosseFilberto is quite stupid tbf

 

[Spurlock]

@FosseFilberto is quite stupid tbf

Why?

how come?

 

[brb]

As much as I don’t like Brexit and think it will have a detrimental effect on many aspects of life, I do think there’s an opportunity for it to reshape the food industry and buy more British grown produce.

For that to happen though, folk need to learn to enjoy the produce we make and eat more seasonally. I mentioned it earlier, but the British don’t eat a lot of herring, mackerel or sardines so most of that gets imported to the EU.

And although not strictly linked to Brexit, the unsustainable practice of air freighting food in from the other side of the world needs to change. We’ve become a convenience culture, we want everything on demand. We need to learn that things like asparagus grow here in the spring and that’s when we should be eating it. Rather than flying it in from Peru in the middle of December.

Some British foods can be grown and eaten out of season as well, due to changes in our farming, I give you Thanet Earth (or whatever it's called these days) as a good example. So it demonstrates we have the ability to change, as for fruit, most of it ends up in cold storage anyway, how the hell do people think they are buying British Apples in February as example.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Another stupid generalisation by you.

If you could please explain why that is a stupid generalisation that will be appreciated by everyone, I'm sure... for me it's is on the money.

Why do you think our fisherman generally voted for Brexit ? ... because they wanted to wreck their livelihoods?

I'll wait ...

 

[Tobes]

I don't even think it's about the fishmonger, supermarkets need to ensure change is available as well. I was watching a long time ago, where lobster came into ALDI and the quality of it. They also removed the need for accompanied freight. I'm sure they have a distribution centre down at Northfleet. Everything is shipped in straight up the Thames from places such as Germany. I don't know all the finer detail but it gives you the basics of what they do. They just need to go a step further and source it in the UK (as you mentioned earlier), rather than fisherman selling it abroad, for it to be shipped back. I'm assuming the problem here is cold storage, but we need to adapt, and ensure we have the facilities to adapt. The environment from a fishing perspective as well as the impact of to and froing mileage, all needs to be brought in check. It's ok to say something is British, but what round trip did it go on, before being sold to the consumer. I'm never saying the EU market didn't work, just the nonsense needs to be taken out of it.

A fresh Scottish lobster retails for between £35-50 dependant on size.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Why?

how come?

... because Sucky seldom understands my posts ... of which I'm rather proud.

 

[brb]

If you could please explain why that is a stupid generalisation that will be appreciated by everyone, I'm sure... for me it's is on the money.

Why do you think our fisherman generally voted for Brexit ? ... because they wanted to wreck their livelihoods?

I'll wait ...

You made no mention of 'fisherman' or how they 'generally voted' in your original post, you instead attacked patriots, which includes me. You also made a reference to 'foreigner' - which you've clearly carried over from your time on GC, and your constant attacking of certain brexiters on there. It certainly in no way formed part of a sensible discussion. But in answer to your question, why would I care about fisherman, they wanted to sell their produce to the EU, that aint my problem. Selfish maybe, but they need to learn to adapt - if they can't do that, we'll await the next venture that comes along and thinks differently about what the market of own sourced fish has to offer.

 

[PINKIE]

You made no mention of 'fisherman' or how they 'generally voted' in your original post, you instead attacked patriots, which includes me. You also made a reference to 'foreigner' - which you've clearly carried over from your time on GC, and your constant attacking of certain brexiters on there. It certainly in no way formed part of a sensible discussion. But in answer to your question, why would I care about fisherman, they wanted to sell their produce to the EU, that aint my problem. Selfish maybe, but they need to learn to adapt - if they can't do that, we'll await the next venture that comes along and thinks differently about what the market of own sourced fish has to offer.

Fair point @FosseFilberto

I’m on the remain side and I watched fishermen vote leave. But I also know some of them (personally) who would describe themselves as pro European, yet still voted Brexit.

I don’t think you can generalise about patriots and foreigners, it’s much more nuanced that that.

 

[PINKIE]

... because Sucky seldom understands my posts ... of which I'm rather proud.

I’m sure @Sucky would have a different view.