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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, Feb 7, 2021.

  1. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    It was because the law stated that for an indirect free kick, the ball had to travel a minimum of one complete revolution before it could be struck as a shot.
     
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  2. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Watching last night I felt almost indifferent. It's like the BCFC light has gone out inside me.
    It's 'deja vu' with our games.
    I haven't been as despondent as this about our club for a very long time - even just towards the end of LJ's tenure was better than this - and no, before someone says it; I do NOT want LJ back - I was just referencing that dismal time as a benchmark to explain how I feel now.
    I just hope we manage to stay in the Championship. Better start praying for points deductions for clubs around us.
     
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  3. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Wycombe are already as good as down so there's 2 other relegation places to be filled. It's getting tight below us, but such is the inconsistency of results for most teams then we're not in trouble quite yet. But unless our nose dive in form is arrested soon, then in 10 games time it might look very different.
    Looking at the next 5 fixtures coming up, it's difficult to see more than 3 points being gained and that's by no means a given.
     
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  4. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I'm the same..Watching that last night and I know Sheff U are in the Prem, but they were poor and we didn't really IMO give it a go.
    We've become more boring and toothless to watch than we've ever been. I repeat, Massengo, Palmer & Sem did slightly liven things up for us...
    It's time for Deano to coach this side, mix it up a bit, try different things...cus as it stands it ain't working....
    All the games recently that Fammy has started, he's been dreadful, If Deano starts him again v Watford, then we all know he's not up for the job...IMO
     
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  5. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    Agree with everything but the highlighted portion, we have been like this for over 3 years and strangely we are in a similar position to the last 3 years of groundhog day.

    I think I said at the beginning of the season that after the original LJ groundhog day experience, I could write the script.

    Start the season great results wise.
    Warning signs start to appear with losses to physical sides.
    But still there or thereabouts.
    January and we start to play like ****.
    Window opens and do we recruit for the final push? DO WE F***.
    The bullshit team selections start.
    The bullshit tactics start, players being played out of position.
    The bullshit substitutions start.
    The bullshit interviews start, trying to convince us that we are turning the corner and we have so much quality.

    TO COME
    The we need leaders speech.
    I am going to have to start playing the players that I can trust speech.
     
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  6. Red Robin

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    For me Saturday is D Day when we get battered by Watford and Holden is still in his position come Monday morning he ain’t going anywhere.
    The club is going to lose countless ST holders when the fans can return.
    The football is mind blowing and boring with no excitement for the fan base.
    The Lansdown family in my opinion have actually taken this football club backwards on the pitch-even after spending the wasted millions on players the football is absolutely boring.
     
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  7. realred1952

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    H e is still having to work with the squad he inherited .. he has a different outlook to the previous manager . [ most replacement managers do ! ] so time to judge is 10 -15 games in next season … whether facing us or still in div 1
     
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  8. Supcon72

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    I just don't see it changing under Holden. Even when we went on the record losing run under LJ, I still had more confidence we would turn it around, than I do now. We played far better football then and were unlucky in a number of games, but you could see we were close in every game to getting something, but now....nothing gives any confidence that things will improve. The team seem at odds with each other, as perfectly illustrated by Wells the other night, don't tell me in an empty stadium he didn't hear Pato calling for the ball! I rewatched it, and to me it looks like he did glance over, so; therefore, must have seen Pato. I think he thought sod the team, this is about me. For me he should be reprimanded and dropped by DH. I would rather the young lad Bell was given a go, at least he may be hungry, and you can forgive his errors.
     
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  9. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    This more or less sums up how I feel. During final the LJ days we were dire, there's no denying, but I still felt that we had the POTENTIAL to turn it around with a change of manager with new ideas, so I hadn't completely lost hope.
    Now however, we have nowhere left to go. We changed the manager and its still the same. The January window is ended so there are no more players, so we'll have to see out the season with the scraps of the squad that we have who aren't injured. the gloom is intense and it isn't going away - this is it now until the end of the season.
    Diedhiou will leave in the summer for free - and whilst he has his critics (of which I am one), he IS our only outlet for goals right now. Lets hope he's either replaced, or Wells starts scoring, or next season will be just as gloomy as this one.
     
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  10. Jiffie

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    I can't work out if this one of your fishing expeditions or another LJ love in.

    That record run of defeats was 4 seasons ago and as with that season it was only partially turned around in that we stopped losing so many games.

    The form improved at the beginning of the following season, in fact it was our best football under LJ but it ended abrubtly in January 2018 and the football has been **** ever since in the last 3 seasons referenced by 9 games in total out 120 since then where we have scored 3 or more goals and a home form where we have only won only 24 games out of 70 games now.

    The football in the main for most of last season and most of this have been pretty much the same old, same old. Weak, slow, predictable, unexciting devoid of chances being created for strikers and devoid of shots.

    I am not defending Holden I never wanted him, I suspect that it was a business and not Football decision, more on that later.

    Exactly how is Wells meant to start scoring? Has he missed a hatful of chances? if he had then the criticism would be fair, I cannot recall the last goal scoring opportunity that he missed and I challenge anybody to tell me when it was because I suspect it much much earlier in the season maybe away at Huddersfield even. He is not being fed with chances because our midfield is beyond ****.

    The criticism of Diedhiou is well founded since the window has closed he has been lazy and uninterested, he is hiding almost certainly trying to ensure he doesn't get injured and ruin his lucrative move and worst of all he cannot hold the ball up for toffee he is not an outlet to help to give our defence some respite.

    The bottom line is the signing of Wells was a panic buy by LJ and Ashton investing half of the Brownhill fee on a player that we never had a midfield/wing backs capable of supplying with the sort of chances he was enjoying at QPR.
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    This wasn't a criticism of Wells. Perhaps I should have worded it differently. What I meant was; if Diedhiou isn't replaced then Wells is the only proven striker we have left. we had better find a way to get him scoring again, or we will be stuffed.
     
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  12. Redprintt

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    Have you given any thought that the poor squad assembled by Johnson and Ashton is the common denominator.
     
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  13. oneforthebristolcity

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    Must admit, even though some of the games under LJ were dire, there was always a chance to steal a point or three, even if we went a goal down. Games more often than not were very close, could go one way or another.....When we go one down now, it feels like there's no way back...
    The majority of the times, LJ's teams made a go of it, especially in the second half...... I'm not seeing it with Deano's, apart from the first 20 mins..
    That's not a LJ love in....that's how I see it...
     
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  14. Jiffie

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    It will be interesting to see if he is still manager of Sunderland in the summer and I already see a 50/50 split in the fans on their forums. With new owners and more money to spend whether he targets any of the crap that he left us with that are out of contract.

    If you keep saying it enough you will convince yourself, but those of us, who gave him more than a fair chance (which is the majority of fans) know that statement is nonsense, take a look at the stats from especially his last games with us, there were games where never even registered even 1 shot on or off target, didn't we once go more than 2 games once last season without registering 1 shot.

    And you do realise that over the past 3 years, we only won 24 games out of 70 at home? that means LJ was in charge for 53 of those games, yeah I really felt given that record that we had a chance of getting something out of games.

    As I said it will be interesting to see how many of the crap out of contract he left us with he will sign (if he is still there).
     
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    IMHO without the injuries, and with a decent leader on the pitch, I thought the squad would be ok - not great and maybe not promotion material, just ok.
    We didn't replace Brownhill and that has left us weakened and leaderless. The lack of a 'Midfield General' is something we all agree about, but Ashton & co have decided to ignore it for reasons known to nobody but themselves.
     
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    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    We did replace Brownhill with Williams, he got injured picking up the pen to sign his contract.
     
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    .. Sorry I'd forgotten about him.
     
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  18. wizered

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    It never rains but it pours.
    Mawson suffers new knee injury
    Friday, February 12th 2021

    Alfie Mawson suffered an impact injury in Wednesday’s Emirates FA Cup Fifth Round tie against Sheffield United that caused a medial ligament tear in his knee.

    The centre-back has returned to Fulham to assess the extent of the injury to his knee. Mawson had been out of action for 10 weeks earlier this season due to an injury to his opposite knee.

    Chris Martin has had successful surgery on his hamstring and started his rehabilitation that will take approximately 12 weeks.

    Everyone connected with the club wishes Alfie and Chris well in their recoveries.
    https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/mawson-suffers-new-knee-injury/
     
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    'Impact' injury. I didn't see anything during the game so I have to question that.
    Another smokescreen ?
     
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  20. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    I believe that this season because of all it's problems re covid and lack of revenue, has probably been written off by 'da management', I suspect they are waiting and hoping that a salary cap is brought in and as we have already seen the arse has already dropped out of the market and clubs will be looking to offload players on the higher wages, the 7 we have that are out of contract are mainly high earners, I would be surprised if anyone other than Weimman is actually offered a new contract and I hope we are poised to bring in some proper talent for once, not the usual dross.

    I see serial administration jockeys of Swindon, had to sell their main striker in the window just to survive and their chairman has said that money will all be gone by the end of this month, I doubt whether they are the only club in this predicament.

    At least I hope that is the case, I also hope that the 1 year roll over contract for our present manager is axed once we are safe and that they have somebody far more qualified for a change to come in and have the whole summer to bring in some quality again for a change.
     
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