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Luther said:
I also have no idea who is LouOrns, but often he seems to be more in-the-know than Adam Leventhal (the Athletic) or Jacob Culshaw (WD18). I suspect that LouOrns is friendly with someone at the club and, for example, he was one of the first to know about Pochettino's son being signed (for the U-23 team) as well as the arrival of Dan Gosling. I used to look at his Twitter account, but people now need permission to read his tweets and I do not wish to sign up for Twitter.

I did not renew my annual subscription to the Athletic because Leventhal no longer appears to have an inside contact at Watford. It has been suggested that Adrian Mariappa was passing on information to him last season, but Mariappa has left so that may be the reason why Leventhal seems to have lost his source. Now most of his information appears to be passed on by other journalists at the Athletic (such as the Burnley correspondent who told him about Watford's bid for Vydra) or on the odd occasion when the club decide to release breaking news to Leventhal. Otherwise, other sources sometimes announce news items relating to Watford before he does.
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LouOrns made this post at 10.44 about Watford's team to play Coventry: "I hope he’s wrong. But just been told Gray starts and Hughes/Zinckernagel on the bench." It confirms my suspicion that LouOrns knows someone inside the club.
 
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Watford has managed to upset club legend, Luther Blissett, in the interview with Andre Gray. It is not the first time that the club has messed up an attempt to create good PR!

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Luther said:
The Supporters' Trust has written to the club:

https://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/19074468.watford-fc-supporters-trust-publishes-statement/
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Things must be bad if they are writing to the club.

I mean as I said elsewhere is part of the issue many people thought we would be tearing up the league playing free flowing football rather than being 5th plodding along with goals in single figures away from home?

They will just say we have no money due to COVID meaning there is no revenue coming and probably won't admit too many failings themselves.

Strong words here - 15 minutes in here:

https://www.skysports.com/football/...nd-swansea-in-the-race-for-the-premier-league
 
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Nascotwoodfrog said:
Well, so far, would rather be where we are now than , dare I mention it .... Sunderland anyone?
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Ipswich
Charlton
Derby
Forest

Is this what it’s going to be like now?

Are we going to become a very entitled set of supporters after a spell in the Premier league demanding big signings and perfection each season in some cases ?

Ok we can play better and have players looking more committed but we aren’t a big team with a right to go back up straight away .
 
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You don' have to confine your comments to clubs that have fallen out of the PL as you can currently see fans from clubs such as Arsenal, Spurs and even Liverpool moaning about the fact that their team is not top of the league.
 
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Markthehorn said:
Ipswich
Charlton
Derby
Forest

Is this what it’s going to be like now?

Are we going to become a very entitled set of supporters after a spell in the Premier league demanding big signings and perfection each season in some cases ?

Ok we can play better and have players looking more committed but we aren’t a big team with a right to go back up straight away .
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It's time (again) to mention the wise words of GT who said...
" WFC should aim to be a top 30 club. That's realistic, when all the factors that influence the club are taken into account. " And that is what we are !
I will back it up with another observation. When Aston Villa sank into the 3rd division, they got crowds of 30000 every home game. That support had been built up over decades. Noooocassel get crowds of 50000 +. Goodness knows why, in some respects ! But it's a tradition built up over decades. WFC will need decades of top flight football to expect to be in the top flight.
It's always frustrating when we know we can play better than we are, it's nothing new in any club, but the only thing that marks us out just now which I intensely dislike, is the disposable head coach (and his entourage) model of club management. I don't have a handle on how difficult things are financially, which might be the trigger for these incessant changes in coaching staff, It seems we are well run financially, and that should be respected, and acknowledged. But I don't like it when the club is treated as a joke and criticised by all the 'pundits' (it's a traditional mantra) for our revolving door policy.
 
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There was a discussion in the From the Rookery End podcast about the generational divide in supporters, and I do think people now in their early 20s who haven't really experienced anything other than the Pozzo era perhaps don't have the sense of perspective of some older supporters. I'm only in my 30s, but my first game was in the season we were relegated to Division 2, and I cut my teeth in the 00s where we oscillated between surprising success and just scraping survival for the club.

That's not to say I'm enjoying the current malaise or that we should be happy with what's being served up on the pitch at the moment, but I understand that sometimes even with the best motivation and plans, things don't always work out, and things could be a lot worse. Like J T Bodbo said, being consistently in the top 30 in England is fantastic. I want to push for more, but things aren't disastrous (yet....)
 
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There was a discussion in the From the Rookery End podcast about the generational divide in supporters, and I do think people now in their early 20s who haven't really experienced anything other than the Pozzo era perhaps don't have the sense of perspective of some older supporters. I'm only in my 30s, but my first game was in the season we were relegated to Division 2, and I cut my teeth in the 00s where we oscillated between surprising success and just scraping survival for the club.

That's not to say I'm enjoying the current malaise or that we should be happy with what's being served up on the pitch at the moment, but I understand that sometimes even with the best motivation and plans, things don't always work out, and things could be a lot worse. Like J T Bodbo said, being consistently in the top 30 in England is fantastic. I want to push for more, but things aren't disastrous (yet....)
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The younger generations don't remember standing in the rain at Southport, Workington or Barrow <doh> When I was 15 Millwall were a big club and our biggest ever league crowd was against QPR a year later - now we have TD winding them up saying it was 'their' cup final <laugh>
 
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