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[Commachio]

Yeah I get that. Just interested to see when we can have our second, apparently the booking will open in February when clearly it won't have been 12 weeks for anyone, though it may just be planning months in advance.

My old man was told to shield (60+ & COPD) but not heard anything yet. Would think it was bollocks if I was offered my second before him his first.

Priority should be everyone over 60 (plus vulnerable outside that age group), once 80% of those done and the NHS will be able to cope with anything else in theory, and we'll reach that acceptable level of deaths.

Germany has said the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine should not be offered to people over the age of 65, a source close to the country's government has told Sky News.

It comes after Reuters reported Germany's vaccine committee made the recommendation, citing insufficient data about how effective the jab is for older people, not because of any safety concerns.


But UK prime minister Boris Johnson said he was not worried because Britain's medicines regulator had judged it is "effective across all age groups and provides a good immune response across all age groups".

He added "I don't agree" with the apparent assessment in Germany.

 

[Commachio]

The way Comm hoys banana's send him out with the second doses, he'll have them all done in a week.

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drop and jab...

 

[Commachio]

to the bat cave robin

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...o-covid-19-virus-scientists-discover-12201222

 

[brb]

drop and jab...

I laugh the amount of people that can't bear to look when they are having a jab.

I'm the opposite, I want to watch where they are sticking the fooker. Especially when they take blood out your arm and they fook up putting the needle in, and you end up with a blue arm for a few days.

I was in hospital one time, so dehydrated, they were trying to put me under, and all I could feel was them constantly wacking my hand to get a vein to come up.

 

[Commachio]

I laugh the amount of people that can't bear to look when they are having a jab.

I'm the opposite, I want to watch where they are sticking the fooker. Especially when they take blood out your arm and they fook up putting the needle in, and you end up with a blue arm for a few days.

I was in hospital one time, so dehydrated, they were trying to put me under, and all I could feel was them constantly wacking my hand to get a vein to come up.

I'm covered in tattoos mate, needles don't scare me. Spiders do.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Watching Newsnight ... ****ing crazy ... interviewing people in London who are against the vaccine ... amongst the excuses ... it's not halal, it contains alcohol and, craziest of the lot ... it alters your DNA ... ffs

 

[FosseFilberto]

Turns out many of these rumours are being circulated by scrotes who are then seeking to sell their own 'protection' products to the people they have scared the **** out of ... utter ****s ... the Government should bring in tough sentences to anybody caught peddling carpetbag cures

 

[saintrichie123]

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[Quesadaad]

The EU is expected to announce later that vaccine producers will need approval to export to countries outside the bloc, including the UK.

The so-called export transparency mechanism will affect all major drug companies that have signed deals to produce the vaccine for the bloc, and comes in the wake of production problems at two major vaccine suppliers, AstraZeneca and Pfizer.

It would mean EU member states would have the power to individually authorise or reject a vaccine manufacturer’s application to export elsewhere.

The decision would be based on whether the company can prove that it has delivered on its vaccine contract with the EU, before the vaccine doses are exported elsewhere.

An EU official says the new system will mean that "any exporting company would send in to their national authorities what they plan to export, when, to whom and what amount".

The national authorities would then be allowed to check that and to give an authorisation or a refusal.

It’s currently envisaged that individual member states would have roughly 24 hours to decide whether to permit the vaccine exportation, upon receiving the request.

The EU official adds the plan is intended "to protect the doses that are supposed to be for the citizens of our member states via the advanced purchase agreements.

"If our doses are delivered there will be no further issues about the exports. It’s about ensuring that the doses we paid for are provided for our citizens.”

The announcement is expected at 14:30 GMT.

According to officials, the mechanism could be up and running, if member states agree to it, next month

Cheeky ****s.

 

[Libby]

The EU is expected to announce later that vaccine producers will need approval to export to countries outside the bloc, including the UK.

The so-called export transparency mechanism will affect all major drug companies that have signed deals to produce the vaccine for the bloc, and comes in the wake of production problems at two major vaccine suppliers, AstraZeneca and Pfizer.

It would mean EU member states would have the power to individually authorise or reject a vaccine manufacturer’s application to export elsewhere.

The decision would be based on whether the company can prove that it has delivered on its vaccine contract with the EU, before the vaccine doses are exported elsewhere.

An EU official says the new system will mean that "any exporting company would send in to their national authorities what they plan to export, when, to whom and what amount".

The national authorities would then be allowed to check that and to give an authorisation or a refusal.

It’s currently envisaged that individual member states would have roughly 24 hours to decide whether to permit the vaccine exportation, upon receiving the request.

The EU official adds the plan is intended "to protect the doses that are supposed to be for the citizens of our member states via the advanced purchase agreements.

"If our doses are delivered there will be no further issues about the exports. It’s about ensuring that the doses we paid for are provided for our citizens.”

The announcement is expected at 14:30 GMT.

According to officials, the mechanism could be up and running, if member states agree to it, next month

Cheeky ****s.

Talk about petty.

 

[Quesadaad]

Talk about petty.

Not a good look is it.
Like me buying a Mercedes, but then finding out I can’t have it because some **** in Düsseldorf wanted it. Even though I ordered it 3 months before him!

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Not a good look is it.
Like me buying a Mercedes, but then finding out I can’t have it because some **** in Düsseldorf wanted it. Even though I ordered it 3 months before him!

On the flipside, if our rollout was well behind plan and we were exporting en masse would we not be expecting the government to kick up a fuss? Don’t think you can compare it to a widely available good.

 

[Solid Air]

i wonder what Pfizer feel about this and does this also cover supplies or just the final products . Think it may all get messy .

 

[Quesadaad]

On the flipside, if our rollout was well behind plan and we were exporting en masse would we not be expecting the government to kick up a fuss? Don’t think you can compare it to a widely available good.

I suppose it depends on the reasons why we were falling behind. If it was because we failed to secure a deal early enough, then we’d only have ourselves to blame.
From what I’ve read, we went BIG early doors on funding and research to secure the doses. I don’t think the EU did. If we had spent billions on vaccines that didn’t work, that would be on the governments head.

 

[Solid Air]

On the flipside, if our rollout was well behind plan and we were exporting en masse would we not be expecting the government to kick up a fuss? Don’t think you can compare it to a widely available good.

There rollout is not behind schedule because of particular delays in vaccine supply but becaise of both EU and national states failings as the Pfizer production problems won't have impacted yet .

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I suppose it depends on the reasons why we were falling behind. If it was because we failed to secure a deal early enough, then we’d only have ourselves to blame.
From what I’ve read, we went BIG early doors on funding and research to secure the doses. I don’t think the EU did. If we had spent billions on vaccines that didn’t work, that would be on the governments head.

Yep. We took several punts and thankfully it’s paying off. The news last night on the latest vaccine sounds extremely promising.

Not on here, but there’s a lot of crowing online which I find a bit uncomfortable when thousands will probably die as a direct result.

 

[Quesadaad]

Yep. We took several punts and thankfully it’s paying off. The news last night on the latest vaccine sounds extremely promising.

Not on here, but there’s a lot of crowing online which I find a bit uncomfortable when thousands will probably die as a direct result.

It’s a tricky one.
Should our government potentially put some British lives at risk (a very small risk if we get our first 9 tiers jabbed up) but still a risk, to send over vaccinations to France so that they can vaccinate older people who may be more susceptible?

Similar to the foreign aid arguement. Feed our hungry kids before sending money to Africa etc.

 

[brb]

The EU is expected to announce later that vaccine producers will need approval to export to countries outside the bloc, including the UK.

The so-called export transparency mechanism will affect all major drug companies that have signed deals to produce the vaccine for the bloc, and comes in the wake of production problems at two major vaccine suppliers, AstraZeneca and Pfizer.

It would mean EU member states would have the power to individually authorise or reject a vaccine manufacturer’s application to export elsewhere.

The decision would be based on whether the company can prove that it has delivered on its vaccine contract with the EU, before the vaccine doses are exported elsewhere.

An EU official says the new system will mean that "any exporting company would send in to their national authorities what they plan to export, when, to whom and what amount".

The national authorities would then be allowed to check that and to give an authorisation or a refusal.

It’s currently envisaged that individual member states would have roughly 24 hours to decide whether to permit the vaccine exportation, upon receiving the request.

The EU official adds the plan is intended "to protect the doses that are supposed to be for the citizens of our member states via the advanced purchase agreements.

"If our doses are delivered there will be no further issues about the exports. It’s about ensuring that the doses we paid for are provided for our citizens.”

The announcement is expected at 14:30 GMT.

According to officials, the mechanism could be up and running, if member states agree to it, next month

Cheeky ****s.

I think the media are doing a lot of shhite stirring at the moment.

So until the EU doing anything that I feel is detriment to any contractual agreement between the supplier and the UK, then I'm happy to give benefit of doubt.

Afterall the goal should be about saving vulnerable lives. Not bloc or nationalistic arguing. If that means we have to stay in lockdown longer, because we need to help another nation out, then so be it.

 

[brb]

Tbph with you guys, I'm more pi55ed off with Nicola Sturgeon than anything the EU is doing. I just wish she would fook off. Give her, her independence, and I hope the malicious bat chokes on it [HASHTAG]#CovidRevenge[/HASHTAG]

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

Tbph with you guys, I'm more pi55ed off with Nicola Sturgeon than anything the EU is doing. I just wish she would fook off. Give her, her independence, and I hope the malicious bat chokes on it [HASHTAG]#CovidRevenge[/HASHTAG]

What’s she done now?